Sadly, no one will be ALLOWED to build an alternative. Kind of like gas mileage...cars that get over 50 MPG won't be allowed to be produced.

That being said, love this editorial. Too bad the companies that really need to hear it won't listen.

What's wrong with Vista? All I have heard is that people don't like it. Because it's slightly different? I've been using it and it was a little difficult to find somethings but my boot times are faster and my pc runs smoother. Performance problems were on XP when everybody had everything loading up or loading adware(nothing is free in life people).

I don't think the author has looked at the Surface. That computer is amazing. This is what is coming to stores and into your homes in the coming years.

Going into an Apple store is an experience akin to joining a cult where you know they’re going to ask you to lie down on a shiny white surface, drink something deadly, and wait for the mother ship to take away the faithful.>>>>

Couldnt have said it better myself... pretty soon Appleology will file itself as a relgigioin so it can get the impressive tax cuts too... hehe.

Apple Inc. - Marshal Applewhite
Consumer goods cult - UFO/Suicide cult

Coincidence? I think not.

Your article is a bit flaky, in the sense that its all rhetoric and pessimism without an upside or way out. Yes, Microsoft is a slow corporate bureaucracy. Welcome to the last decade, lets not begin crawling in our skin over it.

If there's any point to be found here, its that Microsoft tries to cater to three different computing experiences:

Enthusiasts who want the most out of their hardware, and all the latest technology. They don't want to sacrifice any part of the cutting-edge for legacy support.

IT crowd that wants stability, standards and security with fine grained control and zero bloat. Unlike enthusiasts, a lot of IT houses will murder you for taking away their backwards compatibility.

Experience crowd that mostly does media, social and internet. Your average user.

Worse yet, most of these overlap several times throughout the day.

Vista is a good operating system, and it can satisfy most of the requirements of the above groups. But it tries to do so at once, and even with the underlying technology sitting there, its not optimized for either group. So what you end with is a feeling that the OS might be bloated, because it takes you too long to do the typical tasks.

And if you optimize your experience (the long, hard, slow and painful way), it takes equal effort to go back or change it again. Hence after fresh installs, most people spend a day getting everything "just right" and it sits like that for months or years.

Playing on that whole "individualism" thing, the solution is to make Windows a more customizable and open platform without necessarily being open source. What this means is being able to start with the basics and add modules that can work with each other, without necessarily being dependent. It wouldn't require different kernels or drivers, no matter how many permutations.

Perhaps one of those modules could be a UI framework that'll take the same apps which are able to run on any other configuration, but rearrange them in a way most functional to the type of user using it. Change the desktop, and the level of visibility different options have. Save as preset to your hard drive; upload to cloud and access anywhere.

How about being able to switch on the fly between presets? Go from a Gamer config to a Productivity config with a simple hotkey. It still bothers me that I can't easily change the basic structure of windows in Windows, or run multiple desktops natively, or work in layers, or control a lot of things really.

In my eyes, if I wanted proprietary to mean constricted, I'd have gone the Mac route ages ago. And if I wanted to sacrifice compatibility (hello gaming) for customization, I'd have gone to Linux.

Having that baseline, tightly-controlled experience, where you can do anything you want fairly adequately is.. a nice start. But if the next version of Windows continues to shove the the same desktop format upon people, their last life thread will be DirectX lockin. If it were cut today, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Great article, and I agree with the sentiments. Apple as a cult is just a funny sentiment, though scarily accurate.

I love the idea of an Xbox OS for the PC; just give me something that will play Xbox and Windows games reliably, and can do Web and Email. That will take care of 90% of what home users want anyway. Tack on a simple word-processor, and you'll be 99% there.

In response to Headward, the reason Vista sucks has nothing to do with it being "different", actually I like the new look and feel. It has to do with the ridiculousness of an OS taking up 10 gigs of hard drive space, and 1.6 gigs of RAM without having anything else installed or running! I'm sorry, but that goes beyond bloatware. On top of that, other than the flashy new graphics, there is not ONE new feature I want, or can't get in XP. I'm still bitter about M$ making DirectX 10 and Halo 2 Vista Only, but it is still not enough to make me upgrade.

@Shen: I agree with you on the most part. The article jumps all over the place and even conflicts with itself. However, what about users like my parents who know how to use certain apps very well and feel "confident" as such using a computer, but do not know anything about configuring one? They aren't going to "optimise" Vista for their use. All they want is a fast, stable OS that doesn't bog them down with crap. In that sense Vista is a step backward from XP for them.

I think that linux is one of the greatest things on earth. It has its problems first of all being that people who make drivers tend to deny its existence.

But the user who choose whatever kind of operating system they want. The IT guys get their command line server operating system. The power users get their 3-d compiz fusion desktop or possibly an entirely stripped down version of gentoo compiled from scratch. The normal users can just run ubuntu or xubuntu if you want your comp to idle at 64 mb of ram. Granted it has it's bugs. More than a few times I have fought with unsupported wireless drivers or had my graphics drivers die after a new kernel install. The I like most about linux is it's always getting better. There is hope.

I do occasionally find myself in windows running some arbitrary app or game most of which done through my virtualbox virtual machine (won't do high end games). windows will always have it's millions of apps and apple will always have it's hardware that works perfectly without fear of drivers. I for one choose the even split I have the beauty and speed of apple with an ever growing application base that enables me to do almost all my daily tasks. It does this all without charging me for upgrades or trippling the price of my hardware. Ubuntu on the cd even has a legal disclaimer that reads. You are encouraged and legally entitled to copy, reinstall, modify, and redistribute this cd to you and your friends. Try to find that on the back of your OS.

With ubuntu the thing just works. It will find codecs for you. It will install flash and actually work. My wireless card was even plug n play. Every upgrade not the kernal does not require a restart. I suggest the folloing apps tovid and k3b = nero gnumeric = excel abiworld = word pidgin = aim I still dont like openoffice.

I believe this will be followed by horrible criticism from both microsoft and apple fans who tried red hat about 5 years ago. Have you tried linux lately I've definitely know the ins and outs of both macs and windows. They are just not the balance I need.

When the Intel Atom comes to Apple's mobile products, they'll essentially have the same Mac OS X kernel on multiple x86 platforms from handhelds to desktops. Microsoft has an opportunity with next-generation lightweight kernels like MinWin and microkernels like Singularity to deploy a scalable operating system family across a range of devices built by hardware vendors.

They could have a one-size-fits-all OS if it were highly modular. For instance, consumers would have a multi-touch interface module, IT would have legacy support modules, mobile users would have cellular interface modules, etcetera.

But then of course, your Microsoft Points account would be charged monthly for your individual subscriptions to each module, and Linux would have a field day.

Vista takes 10 gig of space, huh? I have a $69 500GB with lots of space free after being filled with my personal pictures, music, documents, etc. Please vista, take up more space. I just don't know what to do with my extra space.

I think one of the nettles that MS should grasp is backward compatibility. You can still run 16-bit, Windows 3 apps on Vista. All the extra code to allow that must be adding to the complexity and bloat of the code. It was understandable in XP, but I think it really is time it was all dropped.

Try editing some video from your mini-DV camcorder, that'll do it!

Have you used Vista?I work in the IT industry and have been testing Vista all summer now since May. I have it running on an old machine I scraped together with and old p4 2 gigs of ram and a 7800GS. It runs perfectly fine without any problems. when Idle it only uses about 700mb of ram so I dont know were you got your figure of 1.6GB of ram and right now I'm running Firefox 3, thunderbird, and a VNC session to my linux box and its only using a gig of ram. As far as HD space is concerned I cant believe that kid above complained about 10Gig of space.What is this the early 90's, like he said 500gb $69 or less. So far I have found Vista to be more stable then XP, having had this computer running non stop for over 2 months without a hicup,only having to have shut it down in order to test some drives I found laying around.

As far a Features are concerned, for one its alot more secure, and the features are there you just have to look for them,The biggest one being DX10. Now this is something that has bugged me as well, people complaining about performance hits with games. Of course your going to have a slight performance hit utilizing DX10, usually when things look better in games its because your hardware is working harder, so stop complaining about a measly 5-10 fps drop when utilizing DX10.

In conclusion juts give Vista a chance, alot of people that I have met bash it but when I ask them if they have used it they usually say no, which throw there credibility out the window. Also dont expect Vista to run on a PC thats 10 years old, and dont just try to make the minimum requirements ( minimum being the key word there).

Thanks for your response. But it can't have 1.6 GB RAM because system requirements says 1 GB, so that blows your argument out. The next about hard drive space. Are you seriously complaining about Vista taking 10GB of hard drive space? I wouldn't recommend upgrading to Vista. But complaining that a new PC is coming with Vista is silly. Most of the reasons Vista doesn't run well is the same for XP - crapware(from PC builders), AV, or crappy hardware.

Mac OS for the Mac doesn't have a light weight kernel. The variant they are using for the iPhone is slimmed down, but fair from light weight. And for those who complain about Vista using to much Ram, Mac OS uses 1 GB right at startup.

I'm not bashing Mac OS here. Most know I don't hate mac, but Mac OS is not perfect, small (5 GB install), or light weight by any means. It may boot a little quicker though it's close. TBH Vista and Mac OS bloat wise aren't that far off.

Currently, Vista is the only 64-bit home OS out there. Honestly, I really do not think Vista is a faliure, but a recovered disaster. Sure it sucked right away, just like XP did, but most of the kinks are worked out and it is still improving. What I mentioned above about it being 64-bit capable appeals to enthusiasts who want to use more then 3 GB of ram.

Face the facts, Vista is NOT a huge faliure. It sucked and still is not perfect, but it improving. It takes a couple years for an OS to mature and become stable in every aspect. People just loved the fact that Vista had a terrible start and can't get over it because it is a microsoft product.

I am really getting tired of the bias reviews and fanboy comments on TGdaily. Guess people always just want to see the giant fall. Im sure ill get bashed down on the /- feedback for comments too, because I just slightly defended microsoft. Go back and read comment boards ... anytime there is a MS or Apple article, the Apple praisers and Microsoft bashers get , and anyone who dares to make an argument for Microsoft or against Apple just gets sent strait south.

1000s of people feel exactly the way you just described; well put. The last line of your post is too true.

When Vista came out, I downloaded Ubuntu and gave it a try. Been happy ever since. It has all the programs I need, even when I write software in C#. My only remaining crutch to Windows is World of Warcrack, but you know, wine runs it perfectly.

I love to see companies such as Adobe starting to embrace the Linux world as well with Air, Flex Builder, Flash, Acrobat and so on.

I have a second computer sitting next to me that has Windows XP on it, but honestly, the only time I ever have to touch it is to make sure my web apps work correctly with IE for the suckers who believe:

"Sadly, there is no replacement for the PC. Sadly, there does not seem to be anyone who can build an alternative."

I was a skeptic before, but Ubuntu, and Fedora for that matter, has sure proven it's worth.

On the article as a whole, I think we can clearly say that Emory is very sad that Microsoft didn't specifically consult him (or her) on the way Vista was to be put together.

Now the Apple stuff was pretty funny. I liked that. But that is off the subject.

For all the complaining people do on websites like this about Vista being big and taking up to much RAM, for goodness sakes, hasn't it been around long enough for you to find out why? I mean, you guys are techies who love to tweak and optimize (I assume you do anyway, I love to). If you didn't, you'd be using Macs.

You tweak and adjust for the perfect setup, perfect registry, perfect services. If Vista was perfect, you would still be turning stuff on and off anyway.

Now, as for the 10GB of space... ridiculous? Maybe. I'm with Hermit though. My laptop has 2 cracked games (Starcraft Brood War, Civ3), 20GB of music, 16GB of pictures, and about a GB of documents related to school. Throw in Windows Vista, and anything else I've missed, and I still have 40% of my hard drive free.

And ya'll complain about the RAM all the time, but you need to read up. Its not cause Vista is bloated. It is cause it is smarter.
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=735

EEngineer's personal "bitterness" is totally because of DX10, which I think after everyone got used to it, has turned into a spectacular looking little idea of Microsoft's. IDk, but Crysis looks pretty great on DX10. So does Company of Heroes, World in Conflict, you know the list.

So, what I'm saying is, this article is not the best article I've seen. Probably because it is poorly constructed, but also because the writing it not well thought out. Can you dislike Vista, sure. But you've got to argue it better than you just did.

On my laptop, before I upgraded to 2GB of RAM, I was with you. Vista sucked. Now, combined with SP1 fixes (sped up my machine immensely. I was shocked) and Superfetch's own skillz, my machine is just as loved as that desktop I built 2 summers ago. Ok, almost as much. I can't play new games on this one.

The guy "complaining" about 10gb was obiously being sarcastic.

I think perhaps the reason the PC is stale is less b/c of microsoft and more b/c of the fact that there's just not much innovation in the application space these days. For heaven's sake, vista's an OS people! It's supposed to sit there, look cute, and let you put YOUR stuff on it.

When you look at the "new" thing, most companies seem to be focused on trying to get you to pay for "Software as a service" (i.e. rent, i.e. pay money continuously) for essentially the same apps as you've had for 10-20 years. This applies to games as well as "productive" apps. We've gone online and got a bit more connected, and we can do A/V editing cheaply, that's it. Tech is maturing, face it. I'm not sure that's bad as we could in theory focus on quality over quantity (ha ha).

The personal computer is very versatile. It can not only run Windows but can also run a slew of other operating systems. I prefer to use eComStation. http://www.ecomstation.com It is an updated version of OS/2 Warp. I have Linux on a computer. http://www.linux.org There is an open source clone of WinNT called ReactOS. http://www.reactos.org I have read of at least about a dozen different operating systems that can run on a personal computer. One is not restricted to Windows (which is why I am frustrated that so many link 'pc' with 'Windows' thinking that is the only choice). With Apple computers one is legally bound to use Apple OS even though one can install other operating system on it because of the Intel chipset. The PC is very versatile and does not need fixing. It is like the gas engine in the car. It is basicly the same principle since Henry Ford introduced the Model T.

Not to be rude, but I’d like to offer a little constructive criticism… This reads like something a high school student wrote for class; same thing with Samantha's articles as of late.

They just seem to lack 'professionalism'. I’d give an example, but it’s really the entire article.

I hope they start taking cues from Wolfgang, as I quite enjoy his articles, even if I do disagree with one here and there.

Yeah, Ubuntu works right out of the box, no problems. I definitely didn't spend a week trying to get the drivers for my wireless network card, graphics card, and sound card to work, only to have the wireless card shut itself off spontaneously the day after I got it working and refuse to be turned on again. The OS most certainly wasn't slow as hell, taking over 5 mins just to open Firefox. It was probably the fault of my hardware: an ancient Atholon X2 4200 with a measly 2 GB of ram, outdated GeForce 7600GT, and Netgear Wireless G card.

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The only thing I don't blame Ubuntu for is the sound card drivers - Creative Labs' driver support is just as bad for Windows as Linux.

"Of course your going to have a slight performance hit utilizing DX10"

What about DX9...Why do I see 10-20% drop in performance in vista when I play certain DX9 games on it.

It's because vista use more resources than Xp, not just more HD space or memory RAM, it also uses more cpu cycles because of the many services that are working in the background.

Do the comparisons between the two OS's by yourself and then come back here and talk...or type.

Vista takes your 1.6 Gigs of ram to hold it active and ready for applications. its not actually using it. its not as bloated as it seems if you know how it works.

trun off super fetch and that will drop below a gig. super fetch tracks the programs u use and loads the most common ones into memory at start up. I don't find it to be that helpful but i suppose if I didn't have raptors in raid 0 I might notice an imporvment in load times.

If your RAM is sitting there free, then the OS is not making good use of it. A good OS SHOULD use ram at idle for doing background tasks and increasing resposiveness when you decide to start working again. It should also RELEASE that memory whenever another process needs it. It should NOT just never use it, what sense does that make?

Now I know I fit into a nitch group... but I'm going to have to say 10Gigs is rediculous for an OS install. You say you have a 500GB drive, well so do I. Infact I have 2 750GB drives, a 250GB drive and 2 150GB Raptors. The point is, I still complain about the install size because I only use the raptors for my installs and boot discs. I fine tune the kernel sizes on all other drives to fit large/small file sizes to decrease search times and take some of the hit off of the harddrive to maximize its life.

You say Vista is "smarter" well I call that bloated. I don't need Vista to be smarter, I need it to do what I tell it to do. I don't like the computer to make it's own decisions because almost every time it does it makes the wrong decision or screws up something I've set to be specific.

In the 10 years I've owned Windows (95, 98, 2000, XP) not once have I ever utilized the help files.

well, vista already sold hundred million copy.
Failure? guess not in most people's eye.
problem? every software company's next version software always got bigger and more complex so that there is new features..
Have you compare os/x with apple II's o/s ?
Have you compare old red HAT linux's size with the current version?
Have you compare all the game size in the 70's 80s
to today's xbox PS3, even Wii games?
THEY ALL GET BIGGER!!!!
And why? because our new machines can take it.
complaining about harddrive space?
it's 60$ for a 500gig harddrive!!! cheap ...
memory? I just saw a 300$ desktop from HP with 3Gig of memory!!!.
it's not the old days where you have 64K in the system....
it got more complex and looks better and easier to use...not like the text mode DOS days.
Sotware does not need to be on diet...
it's not build for pure calculation speed.
or else you can install your DOS back on your computer and see if you can write a text document any faster? Human is the bottle neck.
And why would they sold xbox o/s on a pc?
try to kill their own business?
To me a computer is just to do basic stuff...
Even if you game...do you really need to go highest resolution all the time to play? who can afford 300-500$ a graphic card to play hardcore game?
it's less than a tenth of a percent of people that would require extreme power that no one else need.
You don't see apple change their computer to just make gamers happy? why no one complain about apple?
because they are apple fans.
the O/S is already doing so much...you keep requesting new features but yet want it to run effecently and be in small size...there is no such thing. You add many equiptment to a car and it's going to be heavier and run slower or eat more gas.
There is no free lunch!!

yea, of course backward compatibility is needed.
Just think if one day MS has a new o/s that does not run any old software and require major re-write of old software....how long you think you will get your first software?
Just a little less compatable...and people are screaming Vista sucks alread...just think if nothing old runs on the new o/s

yo - "Failure? guess not in most people's eye."

It is a failure in most peoples eyes because the business community hasn't and wont adopt it. And the majority haven't and wont.

Win ME2 aka vista has an Win ME like life span. You guys don't get it. IF VISTA WAS WORTH ITS VALUE THE WINDOWS 7 DATE WOULD NOT MOVE UP... HELLO??

It's not a failure in microsofts eyes because:
* they managed to get money from open beta testers.
* they sold their DVD burning application without ever having to compete in the open market.

Another attempt to unfairly killing other companies lively hood and ultimately doing more harm than good to consumers who receive the best value through competition.

This part will fly over many heads because you believe the microffluff propaganda that everything in the OS is free stuff. Despite the retail cost of the OS climbing to astronomical proportions.

LOL and you said
yo - "who can afford 300-500$ a graphic card to play hardcore game?"

LOL a 300 to 500 video game card is a much better choice than spending up to $399 for an OS that doesn't have a new feature set to justify the price or resource hogging nature. And also an OS where some of you seem to be staring into an eclipse and can see the sun (windows 7) still shining in the sky.

Because you've chosen to put on blinders to the truth doesn't mean you've one upped the masses. The term fools gold comes from fools holding something thinking it's golden when it is not.

That is the funniest part about this whole episode. Is consumer that are openly slapped in the face and still come to the defense of the company performing the slap.

Proof that some of you are major suckers is that they sold many $599 for the Billy Boy Signature edition of vista.

LOL, hahahaha ROFL as if you're gonna whip out these vista disk in 2020 and someone is gonna bid millions of dollars to get your rare vista cd disk to add along in their major historic collectibles.

Talk about major suckers WOW !!!

Please join us again in the real world.

yo - "more complex so that there is new features"

It's my belief that had microfluff simply put an effort behind XP x64 consumers would have been much better of in the short term until windows 7 (on paper) the real OS to move to was released.

Instead they decided to shoot for capital generation at the lemmings expense. And at some point you need to stop being taken for granted "Microsoft expects $15.9 to $16.1 billion in Q4 revenue", "Microsoft is anticipating a full fiscal year, ending in June, 2008, with revenues of $58.8 to $59.7 billion, net profits of $23.3 to $23.7 billion dollars"

www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34552/118

I'm better that you can't name 10 of these complex new features that are better in vista than XP x64. I can name resource hogging features and tell you why they aren't worth their weight in that fools gold that you are holding onto tightly.

And let me state something, if you purchased a new system that came with windows ME2 AKA vista then you did nothing wrong and I don't consider you a sucker. Your choice to downgrade is an individual option that you must weigh based upon your use for your system.

I'm not stating vista sucks or is an aweful OS. It just doesn't offer the value to warrant existing customers to upgrade.

And the fact that they've hot microsoft has hot patched they hell out of it since inception while not fixing known issues in XP is a slap in the face to all consumers and purchasers of XP.

Because basically the company is manipulating its consumers into a move to a new platform.

I've seen people post "but to fix xp they would have to fix and change the kernel". And then when I state but they put in a new kernel build in the SP1 patch of vista x64. They disappear to a new thread, because they know what we all know. And that's micro fluff can fix these issues IF THEY WANT TOO.

So please go ahead and name me 10 new 'complex' OS features they clearly show a value of up to $399. And please don't call DVD copying a feature of the OS or stolen XP shareware like breadcrumbs that microfluff simply copied and put their spin on it. Just as they stole tabbed browsing LOL

Is that too much to ask?

This is NOT the same argument all over again.

This is not the same situation as win 98SE to XP upgrade complainers.

XP was more of a resource hog but it was because of so many more things it was doing. And it's true XP was a hog compared to 98se.

But XP was microsoft attempt to finally get an OS that was true multitasking. Since windows inception, they had been trying to catch up to the amiga OS.

An OS that was way ahead of its time. And an OS that did much more with much less resources. So you can stop saying the actual OS has to be bigger.

yo - "the O/S is already doing so much...you keep requesting new features but yet want it to run effecently and be in small size...there is no such thing."

I mean have you been reading? They've demonstrated minwin for over a year now. Here is a clue, IT IS SMALLER, IT IS BETTER THAN VISTA, IT HAS MORE FEATURES (on paper, altough microfluff has now began beta testing some of those future feature in SP1/longhorn server). UMMMM HELLO???

Let me ask you vista lovers this. When you lose 18% to 30% processing on cpu intensive applications.

Does it make sense to fall for the microfluff sales pitch? They claim to have added enhancements to help unfair balancing in multi-threading and multi cpu applications.

For those that don't realize what is going on. Your new OS basically needs to execute more CPU INSTRUCTIONS to evaluate and correct occasional processing mishaps.

The equivalent would be a side street in a major city that had three accidents in over a year. Someone suggest placing two SALARIED permanent police officer. Does the overhead of two salaries justify the possibility of reducing from three accidents?

And if those accidents are a major problem, why in the hell aren't they fixing it. And why have they stared at the known issue for years?

SP3 delayed for years and then comes out and doesn't address known issues. IS THAT NOT A SLAP IN THE FACE?

If you want anyone to take you seriously, stop yelling and ranting, and stop using the term "Windows ME2" for Vista. Did you ever ACTUALLY use ME? ME was total garbage. Unusable. Unstable. Waste of money. ME crashed more on my PC in the first week I installed it than Vista has since I began using it for testing at work ON RELEASE. That said, name ten truly new features betweeen ANY two consecutive release of the same OS. Anyways, here:

1. Beginning migration to managed code/.NET
2. All new graphics subsystem (NOT talking specifically about Aero here, the WHOLE subsystem has been revamped)
3. Printing subsystem rewrite intergrating XAML/XPS/OpenXML
4. Intergrated HiDef sound support, seperate application volume controls.
5. DirectX 10
6. DXVA2 - Provides hardware acceleration for H.264/VC-1
7. UAC/New security model - No, it's not that bad. No worse than OS X or *nix. Being able to administrative tasks EASILY when logged in a something other than an admin is GREAT (w/o RunAs)
8. Address Space Layout Randimization - another part of the improved security I suppose.
9. Improved networking
10. Improved file copying and moving (now it ACTUALLY finishes and verifies before it tells you it's done, takes a bit longer, works better)
11. Meaningful progress bars - part of improved file handling i'll give you that one too
12. SuperFetch/Readyboost - 'nuff said
13. Improved Search
14. BitLocker
15. exFAT
16. Improved Event Logs
17. Improved Performance monitor
18. Improved disk tools
19. Improved task scheduling
20. Improved SyncCenter
21. Sidebar
22. Snipping Tool
23. Speech Recognition/Accessibility improvements
Have I made my point? Some of those I'm sure you'll negate, some of them can be grouped together but I provided a couple extras just in case...

Enlighten has been spewing his filth on multiple news articles. He doesn't care about how you rebut his arguments, he just moves on to his next rant. I wish the moderators would mute him.

Sometimes I wonder if TGDaily attracts people like enlighten because of their excessive amounts of anti-Vista articles.

I think most people here have come to a conclusion i agree with. Vista is disliked because it tries to be everything for everyone.

Ubuntu has served my every need, pc-wise, for over 4 years. As I've always said, computers are like cars: you shouldn't own one unless you are prepared to handle some responsibilities, like knowing how to use it, and the laws surrounding it. Stop the ignorance - learn how your computer works, instead of complaining about how you think it doesn't.