...of the overcooked, over hyped Blu-Ray player.

Nintendo sales is an amazingly relevant indicator for Blu-Ray sales...

and also the prospects of Japanese economy...
and the likelyhood that Microsoft Windows will be soundly trounced by Linux...
and surely it means the US Trade Defecit is in for a big increase...
and Iran is now SURE to get Nuclear Weapons... Wii Sales rule ALL!

Just wait until some of the bigger titles hit for the PS3. It will be cheaper then and it will have a bigger user base. The novelty of the Wii will wear off soon, and that 480p goodness won't help once its ingenuity wears off.

Haters will soon eat their words

Wii and all other Nintendo sales means absolutly
nothing to Sony and it's goals. Nintendo is for
little children who don't care about graghics or
speed. All they care about is when Mario 98 is
comming out. The Only Platform Sony cares about
keeping up with is the 360. Now that they have
lowered their cost to be extremly competive i'm
betting by this time next year they too will be ahead of MS. The PS3 is a superior machine to
the 360, and it's also quiter and it also doesn't
have the 3 rings of Death around it's neck like the
360 has. I will say one thing about Nintendo, they
had an Idea that was not expensive to implement and
they went with it, the Kiddys bit line hook and
sinker. 3 years ago everyone had Nintendo for Dead, just like their now saying about AMD. It's
ok, the more competition the better.

Brandon, Dave

I think you underestimate the power of the Wii unfortunately. I too am a HC gamer, I prefer the PC over anything else and the Xbox/360 is my next choice, yet I still liked and have owned Sony PS, PS/2.

However, now that I like ALL of my friends whom play games now have jobs which require constant attention and families (read that as kid(s) and a wife, strangely many of us own a Wii as opposed to a 360. Why, well my wife, kids, and other wives, non hard core friends have fun playing on the Wii. They could generally care less about cutting edge graphics. I find it fun playing with all the above.

So while I still prefer my PC and playing BF2, RV6, TF2 etc, I elected to buy a Wii as the home family console mostly because of price and usuability within my family and friends.

Now if I was still single and lived with my buddies, then sure I would have a 360, PS/3, and a quad core 4GB RAM PC with an 8800GTX .... but I like many of the former 20 somethings whom created the gaming market to what it is today no longer have the time nor the disposable income to do so ...... hence some of the Wii insanity from someone whom though the Wii as of last summer was the dumbest idea possible.

It's already been a year since the PS3 (and Wii) were released and even longer for the 360. How much longer are people deciding on a console going to wait for a big title on PS3? I think the last paragraph of the article is saying that 3rd party developers recognize that people are sick of waiting for the PS3 to breakthrough. Apart from the die-hard sony fans, most potential customers have already bought a 360 and/or Wii instead. Unless that big exclusive title drops soon (and there's talk of MGS4 being multi-platform last I heard), AND the price is lowered significantly, gamers and developers are going to slowly abandon the PS3 altogether, maybe not to the point of total failure, but it will start slipping more and more in market share and there will be less of a chance of developers making a big title PS3 exclusive, meaning less sales, etc.. etc...

I'll use myself as an example. Personally I don't like the PS3 for several reasons (sony lying to customers, cell horrible for gaming, blu-ray useless for gamers atm, retarded SKUs, price etc..), but the only console from the previous generation I owned was a PS2. Why? Because of the game selection. It didnt matter that the GC had faster load times, or the Xbox had a built in hard drive, when I decided on a console it was based on the games I wanted to play at the time of purchase. I'd much rather play at least 5 outstanding games at 480p on the Wii (with more coming now that good developers have gotten off their *ss and finally realize the potential for Wii), than the 0 outstanding games at 1080p on the PS3 (ok MAYBE 1 if you count resistance, everything else good is multi-platform though). Not to mention people can already play a bunch of outstanding hi-def games on the 360.

I'll enjoy my gaming in full HD glory, true next-gen. The 360's not future-oriented enough, the wii doesn't take advantage of a new and high end HT setup.

I just don't see the nintendo as a competitor to the ps3 or the 360 because it's a kiddy-system. It has merits sure, but .. ugh cutesy.

Let me go bathe in some gasoline because I can't wait for the flames :)

Nintendo isn't made for children. It's made for those who enjoy the actual gameplay of games rather than the intense graphics, which frankly, really mean nothing to true gamers. It's all about the gameplay.

I don't know why every one has to be a fan boy, I wonder how many blue-ray movies Sony has been able to sell because of the introduction of the PS3, the PS2 never had any good games when it came out but it played dvds.

Wii has concentrated on solid {mostly} first party titles {would sell just for Nintendo games} and innovative controls {that floor most implementations of SIXAXIS} they aimed for a piece of the pie while turning in profit instead of selling at a loss. Granted the graphics lick and there is no high def and the thing can't even play DVDs {haven't check lately, it might after a firmware update}.

Anyways Sony sucks because they keep flip flopping on their game plan and advantages, and can't release solid first party titles, and invested a whole $#!% load of money for a 3 hour game, and needs to use the HDD just so game can load at a decent rate, and gets sloppy seconds in ports. NEXT year they need to bundle Ratchet & Clank with Dual Shock 3, then it will sell.

Microsoft sucks as always.

Nintendo Sucks because it looks like @$$.

Haha linux beating windows thats a good one... youre funny...

“Because Sony was slow to reduce the price of the PlayStation 3 and to produce compelling games, third- party game publishers are flocking to other platforms. If the PlayStation 3 can’t promote more game sales, developers may begin to feel working with Nintendo outweighs the benefits of working with Sony,”

Wii does matter to PS3... It takes twice the developers twice the time to develop games for the PS3. Cell processor developers are few and far between... and are in high demand so they cost more. That's why there are no good games for PS3.

Seriously ... use your head. Either crank out cheap / fun games for a strong Wii market or throw money down a hole to develop for PS3.

Enjoy Ratchet and Clank kids... that's all you are gonna get for Christmas while Wii “by the end of 2007 to ship about 200 additional titles, adding to the more than 150 games already released, many from outside publishers,”

The only true next gen video game system is the Nintendo Wii and my C2D computer. If you really think about it the Xbox 360 does not really offer any real improvements that would merit in video game innovation, isn't this what its all about? You guys sit here and complain about the Wii not having a DVD player, how the hell does that come in into video games or their out come? I don't know what the definition of a hardcore gamer is these days, I thought it was about gameplay and new technologies that bring you closer to the game, other than just the usual button mashing or wether a console offer an online music store or wether I can see the latest episode of 24 on my console. Or a handicapped HD-DVD player on my Xbox or a Blu-Ray player that seems to be more important than the games itself on a "Play" Station 3. You see I dont hate Sony I own many Sony items myself from Sony alkaline batteries to three Sony bravia tvs. I dont hate Microsoft I love their Office 2007 programs and Mircosoft's windows operating system as well, ive never been happier with my Microsoft wireless keyboard mouse and headset. But there is a place for everything and for me just boosting the resolution and adding a few more shaders and filters won't cut it cause video game consoles are suppose to be just that video game console. Im in it for the games and their gameplay, my computer or my home theater can handle the rest of the junk. Nintendo had a good game plan coming out with the Wii and DS and that is having the actual game mechanics first and foremost, and then sticking things that are convinient for their handheld or their console respectively. They offer something truly new to everyone thats why they are on top. As for the Xbox 360 I own an elite and halo edition for the competitive gameplay its just great because they have most of the game publishers and you just get that great spark of energy when the battles get hot and I give Microsoft all the credit. The Xbox is just a kickass machine the effort is in their games and the horse power and graphics just makes a good combination. As for Sony the sony PS3 its like a porsche without gas they just went all out with no strategy they thought all those bell and whistle along with their Sony logo would lure the people in. They were wrong typical greedy sony just trying to exploit every possible source of income. I own a PS3 and and they have disspointed me big time. I own a Samsung Blu-Ray player I was in it for the games its been a year now and nothing thats really worth for what I paid. Ratchet n' Clank was fun at the begginning but the story and implementation was the crapiest ive seen out of the games I bought this year or last. The SIXAXIS is crap and its stupid tilting makes you look like a retarded robot trying to make it work. Sony fanboys are just blinded sitting with their resistance and motorstorm and maybe warhawk saying the same crap over and over, well guess what the Wii is not a fad, Im not going to wait anymore for dumb games that are gona end up multi-platform if the developers know whats good for them. And the PSP is just a failure. Oh yeah the heavenly sword chick isnt so good looking, and the stupid free warhawk game I got Is at the bottom of my pool, because no one is there or not enough people to actually start an online session, I atually went to the 7eleven to buy drinks and junk food and when I came back I had to still wait to get a FULL list of players. So shut up already...

Oh yeah please dont compare AMD to Nintendo, I will never again buy AMD their 2900XT was the last mistake I bought from them. I actually returned my 2900XT so that I can order my two 8800 GT cards. Lets see no more than a 25 value lifespan for my 2900XT...Pathetic. AMD/ATI same hole...

I read all of the comments so far, and for me it's obvious that people have different needs and lifestyles. I own a Wii and it's got it's share of great titles. I also own a pc and tried out the Crysis demo last night, and that's great too. So for me it depends what mood I'm in. Typically the pc games I play have a more serious nature and obviously the graphics is a lot better. Other times I want something more light hearted and fun so I play Mario galaxy. In the end there is no one answer to everything. Well, that's my 50 cents at least.

I still think that the PS3 is a console with a lot of potential, but they still have the same problem there isn't a very good game library, i want to buy a PS3 but i don't do it because i can't find enough games that are really good enough to pay the high price tag of the PS3, they need several extraordinary games to boost their sales i don't know maybe if they could get several good games like MGS4, the new devil may cry, a new final fantasy and god of war 3.
If sony is still thinking that they are going to be #1 only because they have good graphics and a blueray player they are going to make the PS3 the worst console of the actual generation

"3 years ago everyone had Nintendo for Dead, just like their now saying about AMD."

You must have forgotten Nintendo released the DS, which raped every other video game system on the planet.

The games suck, that's why it's not selling, and software is down. Next year looks better, we'll see.

I've had a Wii since December. Its novelty wore off long ago. Now, when I sit and play it on my 42" plasma (or even my 30" LCD), all I can think about is how crappy the games look. Most of the games are awful too; IE - no fun.

"You must have forgotten Nintendo released the NES, which raped every other video game system on the planet."

"You must have forgotten Nintendo released the GAMEBOY, which raped every other portable video game system on the planet."

It is ultimately up to the manufacturer to convince me to buy their system {not the fanboys, you have to convince your moms}.

I own a Wii {and an PS2, and an xbox}, I play my Wii the most but I still have some games I have to finish on the previous gen systems}. I have 7 Wii titles {why oh why did I buy SSX for the Wii?}, all I have to say is "RE4 on the Wii owns".

I would get a PS3 if it had AAA games. {MGS4 looks so good}

I would get a X360 if it had no rings. {MASS EFFECT looks so good}

but what I really want is a remastered edition of the best game ever: "River City Ransom" in high def, kind of what their doing for "street fighter 2".

With Wii games having people getting off their duff to play the games, it does not promote couch potato-ism. :) With the others, one just sits there and does nothing but play. With Wii, one does alot more and appeals to more than just gamers.

Hitting 22, money is getting tighter, lives are changing and intelligent purchasing is key. Not everyone has a high enough paying job to afford all of the best stuff out on the market and still have a family to take care of. Kudos mcrex77, you are completely right!

Yea we get a really nice bonus for the holiday season.

With 5000$ I could buy all 3 systems with accesories and some games and I would still have money left some a nice size plasma TV...

Or... I could put it towards my brand new apartment, buy a washer/dryer, a nice tv, fridge, bed, and fix somethings that I don't like in my kitchen, and still have some money left for gaming or put it towards my car audio equipment (I'm 25 year old Chem. Engineer).

So I'm actually thinking instead of spending 5000$ on a home theather equipment consoles which i don't have time to play , I'll spend about 700$ on gaming and the rest can go to my apartment, car and computer.

- Do I need Blu-ray/hd-dvd? Nope, don't use that, heck I haven't watched TV in like a year, never ever bought a movie and my last rental was like 2 years ago.

- Do I need Multimedia Streaming? Actually it would be nice since I download most of my movies. So that's a point to the 360.

- Wifi? Definetly important since I'm not wiring my apartment.

- TIVO? read up about Blu-ray... I don't think I'll even get cable on my aparment.

- Multiplayer: It MUST have good LIVING PEOPLE games. When I play online I play on my computer, I use my consoles to play fighting games, racing games and occasional solo games, I do NOT play a single player game over and over again (except for FFVII for PC and Starfox and Mario for N64)

Now my options are:
a) Wii for party games, and ocassional single players.
b) XBOX 360 for multimedia streaming, nice selection of high end games

The only reason why I'm considering XBOX 360 is bescause it can stream multimedia and has a DVD player. If the Wii had the DVD I would not even consider the XBOX, as I burn all my download. I know I can copy my videos on an SD card but seems too annoying to do that everytime.

Anyways, unless PS3 start getting their ass together with good games (really nice RPGs, fighting games and stuff like MGS) it will be doomed.

On a side note... do you know which is a new character in Smash Brothers Brawl?... SNAKE from MGS. I mean if he can come out on SBB I'm sure they will find a way to get MGS for the Wii. Just a thought

The last console I got was the PS2 and that was an awesome console - best deal right now IMO when it comes to consoles. Wii seems fun and everything but for how long? I have a NDS lite though and it's been quite a lot of fun but I only play on it when I'm not home near my computer. Xbox 360? I never saw what was so great about Halo or games that I can play on a computer with better graphics and control eg BioShock. PS3? Overpriced Bluray player - you can dl HD content off the Internet btw so I find the format war to be absolutely pointless. I don't care who wins or whatever but HD ftw.

Now the PC is by far the best system - no questions asked. The money you spend on a good gaming computer will be money well spent. You can download roms for free and play N64, Playstation, SNES, etc games. Last time I checked you have to pay at least 2 bucks for one game on XBox Live. I don't even understand what is so great about Xbox Live in the first place! Quake offered online multiplayer about 10 years ago! MMO, FPS, RPG, TBS, RTS, sim - all better on PC. EVE, BF2, TES4:O, Civ4, FSX - if you need examples.

The one thing that I absolutely love about the PC is the fact that you decide what your PC is running - it becomes like your very own creation. You learn everything about it, how it runs, what the best settings are, what upgrades to make in the future to get even better performance. It requires you to be active. You learn what makes it tick. With any console what you see is what you get. Plus with the graphics I have seen on a PC I doubt anything could impress me on any of the next-gen consoles. I'd much rather spend 300 big ones on new video card than on a console because I see it as providing me with more value for the money. All that said I am very much so a PC gamer than anything else. Yes the bias is strong in this one. But it really does piss me off when consoles get all these great games and we PC gamers never see them for PC in all their true glory. Like GTA SA when it came out for PS2 it was awesome but suffered a lot of slowdowns and general speed issues. On a modern gaming computer you encounter none of these problems. The game is much more enjoyable on a good PC than on a console. Better graphics, framerates, modding...

BTW if you get the chance try hooking up a gaming computer to a full HD 1080p HDTV (DVI preferably) and see what it really means to game in HD. I have no favourites when it comes to consoles - I would just rather play on a PC any day. Just like if I could use Linux to effectively play all my games then I wouldn't use Windows XP or Vista at all. 8800 GT is the best reason right now to give PC gaming a try right now.

The 360 has a devastating line-up for the holiday season, and PS3 is falling behind by the minute...now no Snake, so forget about pulling out of the nose dive...WTF is Wii pushing out??? What's on Wii to buy?

This holiday for Wii, I'm going to be looking at Smash Brother, and Mario Galaxy. Plus Guitar Hero 3 has a Wii version, I want to get in on that fun.

Microsoft must be shifting Halo 3 (300 in week 1) to the 4th qtr, which it's easily going to win with Halo 3 and Mass Effect bringing in nearly a bln combined. When tacked onto the all the other games coming out this qtr...we might be looking at $1.5 bln holiday season, and the top system...surpassing even the mighty DS (such a killer device!)

It was the 20 to 30 somethings that helped catapult the market to what it is today.

I admit back in the old days, it was cool to see the newest killer graphics coming from our software, but soon realized, that without solid playability & most importantly, having people be able to have fun while playing a game; bleeding edge graphics can mean nothing. (Think Panasonic 3DO)

When people get older, their priorities shift, and you start looking into the value of your purchases.
Sure it would be nice to have 24/7 to play games, and watch those life like polygons & pixels float around on the screen, but when it comes down to it...

I don't own every system the way I used to.

I rather enjoy having a family, a nice car, and a beautiful home to come back to after work each day.

(Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy my gaming to this day, when time permits... and if I were single, and lived with my buddies I would probably own a ps3, or xbox360... nothing like a good game of pigskin, or hoops)

I agree completely, consoles are cheap but you get what you pay for. On my system with c2d e6600, 4 gig Ram and 8800GTX I can appreciate games in their full glory. If there are games that I can't currently play in high res with all the bells and whistles (Crysis) I can tweak it until I have the experience that suits me, I do not just conform to the settings the console manufacturer sets.

And btw there are games that are pretty much exclusive to PCs, take RTSs for example. I don't count CnC3 that is available on Xbox 360 as an RTS because it's much too primitive. Do you think PS3 or Xbox 360 could even run Supreme Commander? Even if they can they cannot hope to provide the level of control needed to do the game justice without native keyboard and mouse control.

"Just wait for the big titles to hit"
"Just wait for the budget version to come out"
"Just keep waiting..."

That's all I ever hear from PS3 fanboys, to keep waiting. Guess what, the PS3 has been out for an ENTIRE YEAR. It was released November 2006, and here it is November 2007 and it's sales are still failing. If something magical was going to come along and save it, it would have happened by now. I'm sorry fanboys, but this is as good as it gets.

all this talk about consoles and which has the better graphics, blah, blah, blah. It doesn't mean anything. Ohhhh pretty colors, too bad the audience is so retarded that something called a story is weak or doesn't exist. If I wanted to spend time in front of something that has a crappy story but wonderful graphics, I would go see any Hollywood movie. Give me a game that is actually thought out, on most of the systems sure they look pretty but they lack a good story. Plus the replay value on the new consoles are lacking at best. At times I miss the console days, but like most that helped make a market, I've got bigger fish to fry now and my PC has been doing HD far longer and better than any console. Plus mod's, as soon as more console game developers put out SDK's so that I can create my own content, I'm not interested. But I'm stoked that Nintendo created and successfully implemented a needed idea into gaming. I wonder if all the wii haters and PS3 fanboy's would really give it crap if Nintendo released a HD Wii?

you all are more concerned with specs than how it actually benefits the user...not everyone masturbates to their processor speeds or polygon rendering capabilities...

so you're saying people who buy the Wii don't know about gaming or somehow don't count because they're not analyzing how realistically the rain drips off a digital windshield?

Have you all learned nothing from the Dreamcast? NOBODY CARES ABOUT POWER! True, the Wii attracts people who are traditionally non-gamers..but ISN'T THAT THE POINT? Dismissing it as some kind of toy for just kids is a way of avoiding the reality that, while not the most technically spectacular, the Wii is lightyears beyond the ps3 or 360 in terms of innovation. THEY HAVE CREATED THEIR OWN MARKET. All you 360/ps3 fans go ahead and fight for the scraps.