Another successful Sony launch. Maybe instead of shipping the game a week early, they should have taken the time to fix this.

Note that it was Sony's Secure-Rom product that also botched the release of Bioshock a few weeks back. At least PS3 owners don't have to worry about THAT issue. They don't get to enjoy Bioshock on their Bluray players.

At least we can play games without constant RRODs 360 fanboi.

...it's the developer's fault..not Sony's. With the miracle of next-gen consoles comes rushed games, less time is spent on them because they have the mentality that "hey, we'll just have a patch or update to fix it."

What about the Bioshock update glitch on 360s?

RockHop - you do realize the glitch is the fault of developer insomnica right? Sony has nothing to do with it. Yet another moronic 360 fanboy set straight.

It's unfortunate, but there is a makeshift remedy and soon there will be a permanent one. I don't believe something like this takes away from the game itself, in the end. Allegedly the game is "very good", but I don't like these types of games (Rachet, Jak & Daxter).

I played the demo, the opening scene looked pretty nice (view of the city) but the gameplay didn't nothing for me. Maybe it's because I was tired and getting a little cranky, but I couldn't wait for it to be over.

Seriously, you invite flamebait dontcha? I could point out even more sinister "botched" releases from Microsoft. The original Xbox power cord caused fires, the infamous RROD on the 360, the 360 steering wheel smoke problem, Halo 3 causes RROD glitch, and last but not least, the 360 eating disc problems. Need I go on? How about how buggy Perfect Dark Zero was when it launched? And THAT was a hyped launch title too. Sadly, the 360 had ONE good launch title and it was a 3rd party game MULTI-PLATFORM, I might add--Call of Duty 2.

Please, before you post, you might want to research what you're posting about.

This is a minor set back, there will be a
patch for those who bought right away and it
will be fixed for future shipments. This game
is so awsome that i wouldn't be surprised if it
out sells Halo 3 and Tears of War combined.

OK both of you guys are getting a little off hand here.

First off, Rockhop is RIGHT in that its Sony's fault? WHY? Because SONY OWNS imsonmiac! They also (duh) published Ratchet and Clank. From the bussiness point of view, its as much Sony's fault on quality control as it is specifically Imnsonmiac's...

However, chaser has a point about RRODs. Early 360s DID have that problem. Having owned a 360 since Spring 2006, I cant really comment on that since I have a "new batch" of units and my 360 has never frozen, crahsed, over-heated, or gotten RROD. It was/is just a simple 360 Premium from Gamestop...

And about CoD2 and how PDZ was buggy: It doesnt much matter. Why? Because the PS3 isnt a launch console anymore. The PS3 has been around for almost a year now. It would have been one thing if Resistance was buggy, its another if a game a year after is buggy.

All in all though, WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH RATCHET AND CLANK? I mean RRODs, PDZ,
and Sony's SecuRom all have NOTHING to do with RAC.

So maybe we could go back to the topic at hand?

reven

Pointing out flawed releases, botches, and recalls from Microsoft has a lot to do with this discussion, since (correct me if I'm wrong) Rockhop started slamming Sony for this HUGE Ratchet and Clank "botch" as he calls it.

If you provide the 'tit', I will provide the 'tat'.

This is a minor glitch that will be corrected soon, and if it's anyone's fault, it's Insomniac's and not Sony's. Contrary to the last post, Insomniac remains a completely independent game developer, and they are not owned by Sony. Ted Price, the founder of Insomniac, confirmed this in a recent interview with Game Informer Magazine.

This is a minor save glitch, that when corrected will not impact the game at all. Ratchet and Clank Future is a great game, and I'm not even a fan of platformers. I gave it a shot, because Insomniac did such a great job with Resistance, which was a launch title.

I bought Resistance when it first came out, and I still pop it in for a bit each week. Right now, I can't peel myself away from Ratchet. If you want to try a fantastic game with a lot of varied gameplay and jaw dropping graphics, give Ratchet and Clank a try.

"It's about Microsoft's RROD because some guy attacked Sony, and I, being a undereducated owner of the $400 failure, must attack other industry leaders rather than admit to any shortcoming within a 50 mile radius of my PS3."

PS - you people make me SICK. Internets are serious business.

Hey... I just made a comment that maybe you shouldn't hype the early release of a game just to throw a bone (a pathetic, meatless bone) to a famished gaming community.

Yea... I am sure that parent Sony wasn't pushing hard to get one of the very few PS3 exclusive games they have coming for their system out the door early to get some positive press after a couple weeks of "XBOX and HALO3 conquer the Entertainment World" headlines. I am sure the only early release of a software title in the history of computing was the developer's idea... they never want more time to work on a software project.

Poster's Note:
Hey, I am a PC gamer... through and through. And I admit I bought an XBOX360 to hold me over until Crysis comes out next month and I invent $2000 in a new gaming rig. But I am very proud to proclaim I hate Sony for their DRM... you really should too.

As a PC user your defending the company that bought us Vista-DRM?

BTW don't own any of the current gen consoles, but do have a PC that will run Crysis :)

Insomniac is indeed an independent developer, but Sony is the distributor, and is responsible for QA and approval. Insomniac has their own QA department, but they usually deal with more important tuning issues, while Sony is responsible for more esoteric problems like "proper Copyright notice" and standards compliance. Sony provides libraries for system operations like game saves, so their code might be at fault. Either way, they know about it, so a patch should be on your hard drive before you even have to think about it. And who here doesn't have 500MB free? I'm upgrading my PS3 to a 200GB drive, so I know I wont be affected.

The thing is, the xbox360 is not a struggling system. Even with the RRODs, overheating units, buggy games, etc.. The xbox360 is not struggling. It's not making MS a profit yet I seem to recall reading (back in july), but it isnt lagging behind.

The point is that the PS3 is struggling. Ratchet & Clank is a headliner game and a relatively big IP for the Sony systems. At this point in time on the supposed great PS3, such "minor" glitches shouldnt be occuring anymore, especially when Sony so badly needs good publicity and word of mouth.

How will it look for Sony when one friend says to another that his piece of crap game doesn't load because of that error? Despite there being a "simple" workaround would put people off of getting the game, those that were undecided on buying it or even the PS3.

And always remember, when a game comes out that doesn't work right/doesn't load the average gamer does not put the blame on the game company. They put it on the console maker.

"Sony made headlines today, and not the kind you want." - Frisky Dingo

But seriously, this isn't really good for Sony. Sure, a patch is on its way, but this is such a crucial aspect of any game that it will leave lasting negative impressions. And from a coding standpoint this is simply embarrassing. fopen, fread, fwrite, fclose. But back to the topic. What Johndoe said is quite correct. When Ratchet and Clank loads up, you probably see the PS3 logo, followed by the SCEA logo, and then a brief clip of Insomniac's logo. How many casual gamers actually pause to think of who wrote the code? Not only is Sony's name flashed twice, but they're one of the most easily recognized companies on the planet. Hence, they will be the ones with those negative headlines. "Sony bungles it again."

"This game
is so awsome that i wouldn't be surprised if it
out sells Halo 3 and Tears of War combined."

barney
Gimme the crack you're smokin

I Wouldn't be surprised at all. By this time
next year the PS3 will be a head of 360 in
sales and there are more Ratchet and Clank fans
out there then Halo 3 fans, so no i wouldn't be
a bit surprised. Sorry no Crack here, but i laugh
at you because you bought a Red Ring of Death
machine. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter
of when.

where did you get the information that the ps3 will out sell the 360 next year.... im really curious.

Wow that was fast, patch now available. I bet
MS. wishes they could respond that fast.

Your statement said Halo 3 and Gears of War. And, last I checked, I haven't heard of any records being broken by your game. So, pass the pipe and let us all go to dreamland.

I had that glitch with Dirt, but not R&C. In any event the game still played fine (just ignored the warning and everything worked ok).

R&C is a great game btw - IMO the best platform game out for any next gen console at this point. Just what was needed to get the bad taste of Crash of the Titans out of my mouth (yuk... bad game breath!).

The game shipped. MS usually has patches up before the games hit the shelves (meaning in the time it takes between the press and the game release).

Saying "I bet MS wishes they were that fast" is moronic.

On another note, Sony needs to be careful. This is definitely the developer's fault, however at this point in their console's lifespan, they need to put out quality over quantity. I'd be testing the hell out of everything to try to drive some of their customer satisfaction.

I kinda hope the "console war" is close. Drives the companies to do better. Unfortunately, we have Sony morons that brag about Red Rings of Death. Funny, I saw alot of bricked PS3s being returned to stores.

Why didn't we hear about them?

Because even a large failure rate on PS3s is a small number of units. They hadn't sold for crap at that point.

Kids shouldn't get into this debate because they think "My system's cooler than yours".

Ahhh. As you put it, quite a few little PS3 fanboys put to rest.