Sunnyvale (CA) – There are very few options for AMD other than moving into the offense these days: The company’s chief technology officer today revealed at a meeting with analysts more details about the first Fusion processor “Falcon” as well as processors succeeding Barcelona: Bulldozer and Bobcat. And: The company plans to catch up with Intel’s production process in 2009.

 

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If there is change going on at AMD that is visible to the outside world then it clearly is a decisively more open communication about future products. We have long waited for this change, which began to show up first at the firm’s CTO Summit a few weeks ago and today continued at the company’s financial analyst meeting. The company released code-names as well as early product features that provide an outlook from today to 2009 and early 2010. So let’s have a look.

 

  

Mobile and ultra-mobile

This segment is targeted by AMD with processors that will consume between 1 and 10 watts of power in the ultra-mobile segment as well as slightly more for notebooks. We already knew that 2007 will see a refresh of the Kite platform, which consists of Turion X2 processors with  virtualization support, the M960 (SB600) chipset and ATI Radeon X1200 series graphics (or dedicated graphics processors) such as the Mobility Radeon HD. In 2008, AMD will release the Puma platform with the Griffin dual-core CPU, in combination with the RS780M chipset and the SB700 southbridge, which will support DX10 in integrated graphics. There will also be a new 55 nm discrete mobile GPU, codenamed M8X.

We have been waiting for more details on Fusion and the first offspring of this integrated CPU/GPU approach will be Falcon, a quad-core mobile processor based on the "Bulldozer" core with DX10 or DX11 capability.

In the ultra-mobile segment, AMD will offer the Bobcat processor, which will be offered against Intel’s Silverthorne CPU. Bobcat will aim to attract customers in the 1-10 watt segment, which includes products such as ultra mobile PCs or mobile Internet devices. AMD did not say when this CPU will be available.


Mainstream desktop 2007, 2008

The dual-core mainstream and entry-level segment will see the Pinwheel platform in 2007 (Athlon X2 CPU, Hypertransport 3, 690 chipset). The processor will carryover to 2008 into the Cartwheel platform with a 45 nm Athlon X2 in the second half of the year. The chip will integrate 1 MB L3 cache, run in combination with the RS700 chipset, support PCIe2 and is likely to be offered in PC systems with a 55 nm “DX10+” graphics processor.


Performance desktop 2007, 2008

The Barcelona-based Phenom processor will dominate AMD’s roadmap for performance desktops in 65 nm versions in 2007 and in a 45 nm version in 2008. The 2007 Spider platform will include dual-cores (X2) and quad-cores (X4) with 2 MB L3 cache, while the 2008 Hardcastle platform will see an upgrade of the processor to 45 nm and 6 MB L3 cache.

Concerns about the scalability of the upcoming Phenom processor were addressed by the company with a 3.0 GHz Phenom X4 CPU.

 

Server and desktop beyond 2008

Following Barcelona, AMD will release the Bulldozer core in 2009. The first server processor to be released with this core is code-named Sandtiger and will debut with 8 – 16 cores, according to AMD. This next-generation platform will include DirectConnect2, chipsets developed by AMD, HT3, four HT links, DD3 memory support, the recently announced G3 memory extender, as well as support for DDR3 memory modules.

Bulldozer will also make its way into mainstream and performance desktops in 2009.

For mainstream desktop systems, Copperhead will bring a “native quad-core” 32 nm processor in an AM3 package. This is particularly interesting, as AMD intends to release 32 nm CPUs only one year after the release of 45 nm chips to catch up with Intel, which also plans to release 32 nm processors in 2009. The Copperhead platform will be AMD’s first desktop platform to be compatible with DDR3 memory.

Also based on the Bulldozer core will be the Python platform, which will include a 32 nm Fusion-based processor in an AM3 package to replace Phenom.


Stay tuned for more information to come.

Benchamark

Jul 26, 2007 14:19     

AMD wheres the actual benchmark? I long waited for phenom to come, I hope it wont be a dissapointment like the R600.. knock on wood...
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Copperhead looks neat

Jul 26, 2007 14:30     

8-16 cores! Now Moore's law will start applying to the number of cores doubling every 18-24 months
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lets see some results

Jul 26, 2007 14:35     

Announcing new products and chips, and we still haven't seen anything concrete. Where are your Core 2 alternatives? I dont want to see numbers, I want to see a system running, and running something that is useful to me.
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Very interesting...

Jul 26, 2007 14:36     

I would definately like to see these products in the future and how they can perform, especially Phenom, Fusion and the R7xx, R8xx GPUs. I'm really hoping that the releases of these new products will give AMD/ATI the rebound they need to stay competitive with Intel/Nvidia. Of course, on the other hand, I have to say that they're speaking a lot about their future... when they potentially don't have one. I have to side with the people who shout 'Focus on Barcelona!' a little because while AMD is a good company, they seem to have been out of whack lately. Regardless, I think we will all benefit from AMD/ATI's persistence, even if they have been a little off lately, and soon see comparable products from both sides of the field thus leading to more price wars and more power for everyone. If this doesn't happen, then someone is going under within the next five or ten years and we'll be in the dark ages of CPUs/GPUs until another competitor steps up. On a side note, I recently had a class in Computer Architecture a few months back and had some pretty bright classmates as well as a great professor. Given what I've learned and heard from everyone, there is speculation (or certainty, even) that if we forgo the x86 architecture and build entirely new and fresh CPUs from the ground up with modern technology, then those new CPUs would outperform the current ones. I'm not entirely sure about this myself, but it does seem to make sense as x86 has been around for almost 20 years now, maybe more. Only problem with a whole new revolutionary architecture would, of course, be support for it.

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Ditto...show me the benchmarks...

Jul 26, 2007 14:36     

On paper everything looks good until AMD actually releases the chips and they are woefully behind Intel. It's too bad AMD bought ATI...just dragging ATI down with it...
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2009

Jul 26, 2007 15:06     

Maybe by the time the bulldozer cores come out, we will actually have programs that can take advantage of multi-core processors. But then again, maybe not.
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Another paper launch of product???

Jul 26, 2007 15:07     

Another paper launch of product??? Where are the real things?????
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phenom in 2007 and 45nm phenom in 08 .... right

Jul 26, 2007 15:26     

"The Barcelona-based Phenom processor will dominate AMD's roadmap for performance desktops in 65nm in 2007 and 45nm version in 2008." OK - was this press release for wishful thinking? Every analyst report I've followed for AMD says that Barcelona itself is delayed late Q3 of 2007 and that Phenom won't even come out until late 1st Q of 2008. Even according to AMD recent press release: AMD said Barcelona will ship to OEMs in August and be available in board and system products in September. Everything I have read says that AMD will be focusing on their server chips of Barcelona - upping the clock freq from the 2.0 it will initially ship with to 2.6/3.0 by end of year. Phenom won't even make daylight onto the desktop market until 2008. And they don't even have a 45nm plant even built yet. There's no way they will ship Phenom in 45nm. With all the broken promises from AMD and the lack of performance comparisons between Barcelona and Intel quad core top of the line, it makes you wonder if Barcelona is going to turn into the ATI R600 vs Nvidia 8800GTX bust. I honestly like AMD's engineering, but their management needs to get the axe, and their product cycle needs to be revv'd up into a much more competitive and timely turn around. Barcelona should have been out 8 months ago when Intel's Core2 chips came out. This article above, while a revealing roadmap, just shows just how off target they really are. Its not reflective of any reality, but wishful thinking.

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Any actually information from AMD?

Jul 26, 2007 15:37     

Moore's law always stated the number of transistors would double, nothing else. It happens to be that generally speaking doubling the number of cores also happens to double the number of transistors. I too would like to see some usable numbers. Sure 3.0GHz is nice and all, but it isn't exactly anything new and doesn't really say much. A P4 hit 3GHz fairly easily, that didn't mean it was very effective though. It seems to be a great vision they have. All these new and wonderful things they want to do in the future, but it would also be nice to see something real. Even a 386 will outperform a theory on paper when it comes to processing power.

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Hurry up already

Jul 26, 2007 15:45     

Wish AMD would hurry the hell up and catch up to Intell at least a little. I won't believe it until it happens.
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Re: Copperhead looks neat

Jul 26, 2007 16:02     

Yeah, if only it applied to number of threads the applications use as well... Software developers are not catching up any time soon, LOL.
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Finally

Jul 26, 2007 16:07     

Some AMD news! I think Intel did the right thing and left AMD alone to do it's work. There are bigger fish for Intel to fry (or squash). I actually beleive the hype. I don't rememer AMD touting the R600,
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Another PR Bust

Jul 26, 2007 16:11     

Is this going to be like the 2900XT PR bust where unimpressive benchmarks never materialized till the last minute when they had no choice but to confront their fears.
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amd hurting us :(

Jul 26, 2007 16:15     

Hurry up already! So in other words Intel will dominate for at least another year with not a whole lot of pressure for price drops.I don't care which company has the best cpu as long as they both are close enough to eachother to force pricing strategies so we all benefit.
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EXCELLENT!

Jul 26, 2007 16:40     

I knew you could do it AMD!! Excellent news!!
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45nm processors

Jul 26, 2007 16:41     

There are hints dropping that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (TSMC)is investing heavily in high-K metal gate technology. They are also hinting that they are going to produce processors for an undisclosed company. It is suggested that the company is AMD. If this is true along with the fact that AMD is working with IBM and their high-K 45nm process, it might be possible to get 45nm chips to the end of 2008 using TSMC fabs. AMD is hooking up with a lot of companies quietly. I wouldn't count them out yet. By the way, IBM is working on 32nm tech and 3D processor component stacking. If AMD is involved in this, we might be in for a little surprise in 2009-2010. I hope AMD can deliver close to its stated time lines. On the other side AMD is investing heavily in Transmeta. Are they going after the Ultra Low power market? I think they are just going to touch the 65nm process (stopgap measure) and try to jump straight to the 45nm. What do you all think?

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tobago

Jul 26, 2007 17:11     

Makes Sense.
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Yawn.....AMD 'announces' more processors....wow, wh...

Jul 26, 2007 17:26     

Yawn.....AMD 'announces' more processors....wow, what an unexpected surprise. Perhaps AMD would have been be wiser taking all the money they've spent making processor/roadmap announcements this year and putting it towards the actual development of all the processors they announced. Bulldozer, Pinwheel, 45nm and the rest are nothing new....AMD has already announced them. The real question isn’t how many new processors names AMD can dream up as they've spent the past year proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have a very large and active imagination, but where are the K10s 'honest' benchmarks, and can AMD really get to 45nm by H207. Based on their proclivity over the past 12 months for making announcements and not products, it would appear as if 45nm is just more AMD imagination in action. Someone should really submit Henri Richard and Hector Ruiz for the ‘Hugo’ Science Fiction Achievement Award

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good news

Jul 26, 2007 17:33     

well it's nice about that news of amd, besides what is the problem with the R600 i see pretty amazing and besides the price is ok for me. It's good to know that Amd is not death and is still on the fight with all the lost million of $ before.
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if you survive

Jul 26, 2007 17:42     

Well, if AMD survive the next two years we are going to have very exciting stuff from amd and intel in the next decade, both companies know how feels to be dormant and wake up in a nightmare. I wish some one will be able to push pressure on windows also :-P.
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I just hope 2008 isn't too late for AMD to react

Jul 26, 2007 18:10     

I used to be an AMD fanboy, but now i see things different. I just think about some financial issues: Will AMD survive one more year an a half untill they have a new product to fight Intel? Will they have money to keep with their researches? It's sad to say, but i believe AMD is on the rocks right now, an a solution for them may be more complicated than lower prices till death, have a loan of 2,2 billion and release only info about their future proucts...Like Erl said, "Even a 386 will outperform a theory on paper when it comes to processing power."

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Banchmarks

Jul 26, 2007 18:15     

1st i wish apologize of bad english, i like AMD i have it since K6 and forward almoust ewry generation i newer regret it even now i run on amd, but relity is pain for them now, well i trust them in those anouncement cause they almoust newer step then back up with they act and words, yeah i know ewryne have faults but this now smels like Voodoo it not important that they have new products or what quality is in it it just they need strong kick in the face to intel to stay in life well for now amd will leach of they old glorry but i realy hope of SOMETHING atlest we would have normal processor prices and some competition that will keep proc market and tehnologies in right course and in way of constant dewelopement cause where is only one god there are old fools no ofence guys i know intel is better than amd but i like amd better so DIEEE :D just jocke DIE DIE DIE ekke bb gl hf :D

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RE: Very interresting...

Jul 26, 2007 18:24     

Mathias: Finally, I’m glad that someone has noticed that we’re using old technology! We needed to switch to a complete new architecture a while ago, why has SPARC’s MIPS, Power etc so successful and much faster at the same clock rates? As AMD did prove to the world, MHz/GHz isn’t everything, the core architecture is. These processors weren’t burdened with backward compatibility and old thinking because of that… And, we did have a solution: A great one at that too… Which most uninformed, idiots with no actual knowledge of microprocessor architectures call the Itanic – The Intel Itanium. Do not read further if you’re not a thinker: The architecture is a EPIC architecture (Yes, HP developed, but was and is and log-term Intel partner anyway). EPIC meaning? Explicit Parallel Instruction Computer. This would have fitted so well into the multi-core direction the industry has taken… Free thinkers, please that do not know of this, please go have a look at the basics of what EPIC is all about, you would have to agree… But, thanks to Intel’s poor marketing of the Itanium and AMD short-sightedness for prolonging the out of date x86 with 64 bit instruction set (Just to outdo Intel), we are holistically speaking, 15 years set back… Thanks AMD for putting the whole world back… PS: For the AMD fanboys, the Itanium were released in 1998 and were 64bit already then… (A lot of AMD fanboys truly believe that AMD was the first to create 64 bit CPU’s, not even Intel was, for the record)

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that's crap...and silly ideea... bulldozer

Jul 26, 2007 18:30     

How many threads can a R600gpu do?A LOT... Why do they try to put in a one chip a bulldozer platform and a gpu when they could use the raw power of a GPU for making a fusion cpu. I am wondering how many gflops or tflops is making the r600 chip?Can they make a fusion for him so he can do cpu job and gpu?You don't need 10ghz and 10k cores when with interconnect and 4 chips like Tesla or R600 you can push blue gene in a grave.They are trying to do it on the old fashioned way instead taking the lead with something strange and crazy ideea that actually could work.Look at the folding@home project.Imagine that the x1950gpu is your CPU on your desktop PC.How many processes can you open when it has the power of 80 supercomputers?

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PS: EPIC

Jul 26, 2007 18:31     

I wish there were someone that would incorporate EPIC fundamentals into x86 (Which should be possible for a few x86 instructions) and therefore slowly start transitioning to a new architecture…
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contrary to intel fanboys beliefs...

Jul 26, 2007 19:38     

...AMD pulled 3.0ghz out of the quad core even before releasing it to the masses. I can still hear Intel fanboys crying loud "omg just 2ghz wtf lol kthx bye" And it's not performance what i'm talking about, it's stability and scalability of AMD's 65nm process that shows it is already in a really healthy status. Now of course, bring that to the market and we shall oc them and put them on their knees to be the final judges for their promised performance.

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RE:that's crap...and silly ideea... bulldozer

Jul 26, 2007 19:58     

The thing about GPUs is they are only good at doing extremely repetative task, so doing math like in F@H is simple its a lot of the same thing, but generalized computing is not so. So it may sound good to have this amazingly fast GPU pumping out 5TB of processing power, but its not really gonna help you with everyday task.
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L3 cache? don't they mean L2?

Jul 26, 2007 20:41     

Do they really mean L3? L3 is cache on the motherboard while L2 is cache on the processor. It seems to me like these days the big deal is always about the L2 cache and not the L3.
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Bulldozer and Bobcat

Jul 26, 2007 20:58     

AMD have been working on those two project Bulldozer and Bobcat since then last year it will be 32nm. wow take them for three in the market this will be 8 core and 16 core
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Sorry, no EPIC.

Jul 26, 2007 20:59     

Idea of EPIC is great but, it is not that powerful in real life. Before we are in the realm of perfect or near perfect compiler technology, EPIC won't perform well. In the micro code level, both Intel and AMD are using architecture like those found in Power architecture. And, when EPIC, emulation is required to run the current software if you really don't want to purchase a really expensive CPU with the main core in EPIC and a companion core in x86. No need to mention the performance of games. As a side note, if not because of AMD, 64-bit won't even come to consumer market so early as there is no plan for Intel to put this in the normal customer market.

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Ummm...

Jul 26, 2007 22:21     

My only concer is that Intel has been working on its 32nm and 45nm cores for at least 2years. I know Penryn was in development even when Conroe was being released same as Nahlem. So Intel has a 2 year head start on their architecture where as AMD seems to be having to rush theirs. My feelings are that this might cause their architecture to have many problems. Unless they just shrink the Phenom, which in turn will give it a boost but wont be able to keep pace with a brand new architecture. So unless AMD has been working on it for like 2 years, which I doubt since Intel is always ahead in die size, they are going to have rough seas ahead. And we would be lucky if ATI will releas the R7xx & R8xx after seeing what AMD has already done with them. They made the a weak graphics card producer. I miss the good old ATI who would come out and kick NVidias ass.

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What AMD needs to do is stop trying to catch up wit...

Jul 27, 2007 00:13     

What AMD needs to do is stop trying to catch up with Intel and trying to surpass them. Intel has created a chip with almost 100 cores on it and has a quad-core processor now. AMD would be better off trying to come out with a 8x core processor. Me personaly I have tired of the MHz and GHz rateings, I would rather see something real like Giga-FLOP or Tera-FLOP ratings for processors. Reason being is that a cpu now days can process more information per a clock cycle then say a P2 could.

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Remember that Intel showed 4.5 GHz Core 2 Duos in

Jul 27, 2007 01:13     

Remember that Intel showed 4 GHz air-cooled Core 2 Duos in fall 2006 and 3.8 GHz air-cooled Core 2 quads in spring 2007 at IDF, but that doesn't mean they get to sell them at those speeds. Finding a rare gem that will do 3.0 GHz doesn't mean you're even close to having sufficient yield. AMD still hasn't even launched Barcelona 2.0 GHz yet for the server line.
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shoulda bought Nvidia

Jul 27, 2007 01:42     

Remember the good old days with an AMD processor and a Nvidia graphics card. Man those days rocked. I still don't know why they bought ATI. It's like they are loving the underdog life. I know that Nvidia's sale point was much higher then ATI's but hell at least Nvidia can sell chips. I love AMD and Nvidia. I've rarely liked Intel but I got to admit the core2 stuff is scraping arse all over the place. I'm in high hopes for AMD even with their massive billion dollar debt they are digesting I think they can pull out some magic and make good things happen.

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hot air

Jul 27, 2007 02:02     

they do have interesting concepts, but can they deliver the actual products?!? Roadmaps and concepts are good, but they don't give you sales and profit. As far as i'm concerned now, AMD is just the leader of concepts and slideshows.
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berler...

Jul 27, 2007 03:22     

L3 cache is no typo. While each level of cache will process slower than the one before, (L1 is near real time processing) having extra cache is something of a luxury. Currently, largely inefficient, it does offer an advantage to some computational tasks. However, one major downside of this is more watts consumed, and constricted CPU real estate. For example: when the 45nm penryn processors are released they will have a smaller die, therefore more room for L2 cache.(It will increase to 6MB)

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Almost forgot...

Jul 27, 2007 03:30     

Currently L1 cache is core specific, and L2 is shared between cores(for Intel) and core specific(for AMD). The new processor will still be core specific up to L2, but L3 will be a shared cache.
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Re: umm...

Jul 27, 2007 03:32     

Intel is working in their own laboratories, have their own plants, but AMD is cooperating in R&D with giants as IBM and others whitch have great experience in 45,32nm technology and whitch are way ahead of Intel in it. AMD did already showed us they can take more from curent technology then intel do and i think they will continue in this. About just shrinking die, its not so easy as you may think, there are diference in production technology as well as in material used for production. Diferent size of component and their interconections matter as well.

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More cores isn't helping much

Jul 27, 2007 05:41     

Having more cores makes it all sound good but software, Including OS's and Applications, with a couple exceptions, aren't written so that one task can be split up among several processors (which is basically what each core is - a separate precessor). 4 and 8 cores will be great if you plan on doing 4 to 8 different things at once, but I tend to only do up to two things at a time, or sometimes three. I think they need to continue making the processors faster instead of turning all thier attention to "make it smaller and add more cores."

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RE: Sorry no EPIC...

Jul 27, 2007 06:04     

EPIC not powerfull in real life? You must be joking, wonder why they then use it in high end servers? I agree that compilers is very important, but this issue is no longer an issue. At microcode level, Intel CPU's are more like PA-RISC from HP since the Pentium 1, what rellevance does this have anyway? EPIC emulation: The point is that you can start exploiting instruction level parralelism for some of the x86 instructions the way that EPIC has been designed from top to bottom, by way of new instructions (MMX; SSE 1-4 added new instructions anyway) and therefore slowly migrating to it. Yes, there is no need to mention performance in games, as games are emulated on Itaniums as games were no written spesifically for EPIC: I suppose you also do not support Sun SPARC as games have to be emulated on them? You comment holds no grounds... If that is the de-facto architechture, games would be written in native code, far surpasing x86 perfomance? That is a plain stupid statement: Go stand in the corner! As for the 64 bit not comming to the consumer market, yes, if it waren't for them, it probably woouldn't have happend, but in the process of doing this, they also made a even wider market adopt x86 which needed to be replaced, and ever moreso, see http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33105/135/ We are building on wrong foundations our technology which was absolutely great 10-20 years back, but now no longer applicable, called x86

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RE: Sorry no EPIC...

Jul 27, 2007 06:04     

EPIC not powerfull in real life? You must be joking, wonder why they then use it in high end servers? I agree that compilers is very important, but this issue is no longer an issue. At microcode level, Intel CPU's are more like PA-RISC from HP since the Pentium 1, what rellevance does this have anyway? EPIC emulation: The point is that you can start exploiting instruction level parralelism for some of the x86 instructions the way that EPIC has been designed from top to bottom, by way of new instructions (MMX; SSE 1-4 added new instructions anyway) and therefore slowly migrating to it. Yes, there is no need to mention performance in games, as games are emulated on Itaniums as games were no written spesifically for EPIC: I suppose you also do not support Sun SPARC as games have to be emulated on them? You comment holds no grounds... If that is the de-facto architechture, games would be written in native code, far surpasing x86 perfomance? That is a plain stupid statement: Go stand in the corner! As for the 64 bit not comming to the consumer market, yes, if it waren't for them, it probably woouldn't have happend, but in the process of doing this, they also made a even wider market adopt x86 which needed to be replaced, and ever moreso, see http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33105/135/ We are building on wrong foundations our technology which was absolutely great 10-20 years back, but now no longer applicable, called x86

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don't miss the mark... too much

Jul 27, 2007 06:52     

I'd be more than happy to buy a AMD X2 for the same price as an Intel C2D chip if the damned thing performed as well in the same price range. Why else do you think Apple ran off with Intel when Motorola simply dropped the ball on high-end processing and 64-bit architecture? Motorola had a GREAT game plan right before the G5s went dual cpu, they missed 3GHz and never recovered the desktop line.
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ummmm jimmy?

Jul 27, 2007 08:31     

Jimmy, you might want to think about this logically for a moment if that is possible. How could AMD possibly have any effect on R600 when it takes years to make a graphics card, and AMD bought them what, about 6 months before it was supposed to be released? Are you being serious man? You honestly think the AMD went in there and decided to make changes to a product of ATI, benchmark it, see that it's slower, and then go ahead and sell the slower versions. Riiiiiiggght. Also, just go into google, and type something like, AMD and 45nm, or AMD and 32nm. You can find articles on both of them. I actually did it while I was writing this post and pulled up a ton of articles.... you can do it to.

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Jon E.....

Jul 27, 2007 10:16     

I think you meant IBM, Apple has been using IBM for a while, dropped them for Intel.
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Why is it...?

Jul 28, 2007 01:52     

Why is it when Intel announces future products no one says, "Stop making announcements, we want to see products on the shelves." Could it be that people who say that about AMD have a double standard? Yes, absolutely.
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bravo!

Oct 30, 2007 21:45     

seems that someone at AMD got fed up with Intel hogging the spotlight and are releasing lots of info to keep us forgetful people that stuff is being worked on and they do have a roadmap(and that the future holds many exciting things).
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