Quality over quantity please kthxbai.

ya right, sony do us all a favor and get your heads out of your posteriors.

you screwed up big time with the PS3 the lessons of the PS2 were ignored, programers constantly complaining about how difficult the system was to program for, and what do they do make the problem even worse, blue ray, a host of processors that make it diffifult to program for because they do not work in harmony as one would expect they fight over resources, HD gaming a generation ahead of what it should be, HD is up and comming it is not current, it is all about connectivity, the internet online gaming, and sony you have screwed up big time.

I'll believe it when we actually start seeing it Sony...(cue the mobs of Sony loyalists to defend how good a value the system was...)

I'm no fan-boy but I am NOT going to buy a PS3, we've all heard the arguments and I side with Microsoft.

I like to read these threads and see all the people slam Microsoft for their bad OS's and when Sony comes along you see all these microsoft bashers defending the X-Box....

all you wannabees playing with your 2.5 gen consoles are so jeolous. it is amazing. To be afraid of progress and quality makes me laugh. By a comic book.

I know people love to hate things, it seems that Sony is the thing to hate right now. I'm not loyal to any company but I don't blindly hate any of them either. (I don't have, nor plan at this time to get any of the new consoles)

Making the PS3 more competative is good for people playing any one of the consoles because it keeps up competition. Even if it is a shotgun approach and we only see 5% of the games as good that is still a decent number. Its not like any of the other systems have more then a handfull of games that most gamers are highly anticipating either.

HD is a little ahead of its time. For the 360 1920 x 1200 has a lot of jaggies and I hate jaggies. The only thing the PS3 is good for is for a blue ray player. The only problem is that there is one cheaper blue ray player so now you don't need the PS3.

I have both the 360 and PS3 yet I still prefer my 1920 x 1200 maxed setting games to both of them. No Jaggies,high framerates and keyboard and mouse is where its at anyway.

360 is pretty much in the same boat as the PS3 if you think about it. For being 2 years old the 360 is still close to the same price point it debuted at AND it still only offers a couple of games that are truly worth buying. The PS3 is still without any great/groundbreaking games, with many expected games being delayed. But, thanks to the firmware updates the PS3 is (even at the current place and time) truly a sweet piece of kit. It can now serve as a home Media Server, it can upscale regular DVD's to 1080p and in North America it offers full backwards compatibility to PS1 and PS2 games. Does the 360 offer any of this? and what's the price difference between the two? especially the Elite?

Devin,

The 360 does upscale DVDs, and if you have the 360 Elite, yes it upscales them to 1080p. I haven't ever used this feature but doesn't the 360 also play xbox games?

I have both all 3 new systems. By far, the one I play games on least is the PS3. Power has nothing to do with it, it's all in the games. It always has been and always will be. The Wii, hands down, is more fun to play than the other 2 systems; especially if you're looking to draw in friends that aren't gamers. That's beside the point, Sony's lack of software is apparent and appalling, and no amount of smoke blown up our ass from Sony's CEO changes that.

these comments should not be posted!, they are so smart they are just like paris hilton.

I don't care about the PC's you own, the conspiracies you believe, or the consoles you have. If Sony shaves off $100 dollars from their console, which they plan to do, and pulls off delivering the 200 PS3 games promised (180 of the 380 are probably lame online titles), the people who like console gaming and like what they see will be happy. The rest of you, who cares...it's not meant for you.

RRRAAARRR im soooo mad, dang it, sony coming out with more games....RARRR man it sucks, and everything about it sucks, wii rocks xbox 360 so cool.....

You young gentleman are so typical. I was fairly confident that all the critiques about the ps3 were lack of games and price. AND....They just said they were going to market a satisfactory (at least) amount of games this year....shouldn't we be happy?


I think the ps3 rocks. It has power and i think sony knows its going to be useful in a few years. The 360 has a lot of power too (remember now folks, the ps3 and the 360 are like high end cars eg viper and ferarri, there not for everyone so stop complaining and go buy a wii)

Oh, and about the wii. It has a weaker processor than the game cube.....!!!! 4 YEARS OF THE 21ST CENTURY AND IT HAS A SLOWER PROCESSOR!!! I don't care what you have to say, but when the "next gen" games start flooding in (like sony said they will) its going to be lost in the dust.

Well, a VGA connection will allow DVD's to be upscaled to 1080p on the 360, but who do you know that uses VGA for their 360?

Anyways here's the specs on the Component connection which I can bet 90% of all HDTV owners use.

Component:

HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
DVD - Upscaled to 480p maximum, limited by CSS
Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games in the future

I do agree with you Neo that the 360 does upscale and I am sorry for that mistake, but the PS3 still offers the same and more than the 360, but not in terms of games and that is what this main article is about and I hope Sony can prove us all wrong.

I find your statements about the Wii very false. As per stated by a hardware comparison on www.wiili.org/index/Gamecube-wii-hardware the Gamecube had a PowerPC processor running at 486MHz while the Wii is running IBM's 'Broadway' processor at 729MHz. Even the Graphics are running faster with more memory for the system as well. Gc-162MHz video, and Wii- 243MHz video. The Wii is a more powerful machine in all respects from the Gamecube. I don't understand how you could come up with the processor being slower when it is approximately 1.5 times more powerful speed wize. Since we cannot be sure of the differences in the architecture of the chips, one could guess that since the machine can play all Gamecube games as well as Wii games, that the processor architecture is compatible and running at least as fast as the gamecube did. If anyone else can find a correlating site for the information I found, please do so, I cannot get to various sites due our firewall here at work.

Why all the hate? Because PS2 was developed with the primary philosophy of creating great games that people would love. But PS3 was developed primarily to take advantage of the consumer.

For the PS3, Sony took it for granted that their fans would be loyal no matter what. And they took advantage of that loyalty by trying to force on us a system that no one wanted. They focused on creating a multimedia center and trying to win the DVD format war, in order to get more of our money.

Of course all corporations want to get money. But for the PS2 the profits were a by-product of fun exclusive games on a great system. With the PS3 they didn't bother making any great games, because they assumed they could convince us to like whatever they shoved down our throats.

Well,I will start by saying that I do not own a PS3 or XBOX Elite YET!!!..Am I a Sony fanboy yes when it comes to LCD's..I do own 53" XBR3 Full 1080p, I have a Blu-ray (samsung 1200), I have an HD player (Toshiba XA-2), so what ever system that I purchase would be exclusive to GAMING, all other features would take a secondary role. So when it comes to gaming the Elite has the upper hand prevoius "Exclusive " titles to PS2-3 are getting ported to the Elite..Example Grand Theft Auto on the Elite....but will you ever see Halo on PS3 NO!!!..As for gaming I still think nothing is better then a keyboard an a mouse for a first person shooter..So for gaming nothing beats X6800 or Q6800, with an Nvidia 8800 DTX10 card series card is still my personal favorite, As they are VERY formidable an can rip through any next gen game "Crysis, Allan Wake" an many others to come I am a PC gamer. So right now I'm leaning towards the Elite just because of the Titles that are out an are coming out. Oh one more thing the PS3 would look sweet in my HT, because of the nice shinny black..

Johnnyblaze

Could Sony be the reason why master chief an the covenant are uniting to fight this disease called "The Flood"......oh the humanity "380 games
only 2 will be great all other's will just be garbage!!!!


Johnnyblazze

I think the Blue Ray support is great on PS3 and will be the deciding factor for the future of HD videos.

I have a 360 and I love the games (especially forza) but I cannot get the blerry thing to work with DivX etc, (TVersity sux) does the PS3 work with divx etc? Microsoft tries to force its users to use the useless windows media compression only for videos, and I dont understand why they even let mp3 support slip in. How does that fit in with their monopoly.

By the PS3 isn't backwards compatible. Most games give some kind of problem and even platinum games break all the time from what I have seen.

Backwards compatibility - the truth - it sucks on both, the xb360 can only play certain titles and in aus and the EU the backwards compatibility is removed all together.

download a program called transcode it converts vidoes in realtime and easy to use, just select the file press x for options select play with then transcode and viola working!

@Charlie: It's called "choosing the best product," not "pick one company and buy/support only its stuff no matter how good or bad the specific product is." I have a PS2 because I believe it is the best console from that generation; I have a Wii because it appeared to be the most promising console from this generation. I hate Windows operating systems, but I use them more than anything else because I'm a gamer at heart.

And yes, I've used Linux too. I love it for its customizability/freeness, and I know someone's going to say "but Nate, you can GAME on Linux. Just shut up. Linux is great, and I know you can game on it, but I'd rather spend more time playing the game than trying to configure it and troubleshoot.

Wow, that turned into a pretty good rant. Sorry about that.

BUT, being an owner of both I would have to say the 360 has been the better value thus far. I think they are both pretty equal to play and I enjoy them both but the 360 I just enjoy more for some reason. I plan to sell my PS3 soon and get another 360 so I can network them. If only the PS3 didn't cost so much and had more games it might be a better system. I guess in time we will see but for right now I honestly think the 360 is where it's at...

Quote" I have both the 360 and PS3 yet I still prefer my 1920 x 1200 maxed setting games to both of them. No Jaggies,high framerates and keyboard and mouse is where its at anyway."

Yeah too bad there are only like 10 games a year that come out for PC now, go to the store and the PC gaming section is in the back corner next to the appliances lol.

1) Microsoft is pushing HD-DVD just as much as Sony is pushing BRD.

2) Sony didn't take advantage of its fans. It tried to be innovative and release a true next gen console, not just an improvement on older ones. Microsoft is the one that seems to more interested in profits alone. They come out with their system, then an external HD-DVD player (bringing the price equal to that of a PS3). Now they have an elite!!? give me a break, at least Sony was nice enough to release a finished package.

3) Please don't compare a QXxxxx and 8800 to consoles. I could buy all 3 consoles for the price of those two...

I have been reading these comments for a long time now. And I dont understand how people can have such a hate a gaming machine. They are just machines people. From what I have seen the 360, the PS3 and the Wii are all fantastic gaming machines. I would love to have any one of them. PS3 looks, to be the most powerful. The Wii is awesome the games really immerse you in play. And the 360 has some sweet games and the developers seem to be on point with recent releases.
So explain to me the hate for machines... they all are expensive wastes of money, but we keep buying them so they will keep making them.

Actuly the Australian and EU version just dont have hardware backwards compatability, but relies on software. It still sucks though, some games work othter games only works if the game disc has the correct version number. (yes, there difrent version of the exact same game.) But Sony does expand the list of compatible PS2 games with every firmware update.

sony bundled blue-ray with the ps3 rather than microsoft making hd-dvd an expensive add on. This leaves their console too expense, and more importantly too hard to program for. The 360 really isnt any hot anyway, when you ask a 360 owner what the best game on 360 is they will say "well halo 3" well halo nothing it isnt even out yet. Bottom line is, the games arent there for either system. go PC

The PS2 made tons of wild promises, however Sony had all the devs on board with the PS2 because of the crazy success of the PS1. They went cheap with the PS2's VRAM and in a few other areas which is how the Gamecube and the Xbox easily looked better.

What kept the PS2 popular was not the graphics necessarily but the boatload of games (lots of games does not equal good games). If it wasn't because of MS's competition the PS3 wouldn't have come for another 2-3 years.

So competition is good, that's one reason not to knock on MS for starters. Thanks to MS ... Sony is trying its best to be innovative.. unfortunately they decided to use the PS3 to promote their own developed media (like Sony always tries to do.. Hello minidisc). Instead of giving people option they want to try to force people into the more expensive option (the Blu-Ray) ... so they can make more money.

For $700 you can get a 360 and a Wii, instead of paying $600 for just 1 PS3. Personally I think the 360 has it right when it comes to online fun, and that adds re-playability and a new dimension to every game. The Wii is open for all kinds of people, even non-gamers, its still not as fun as the 360 can be at its peak or as useful. For example, I use my 360 to stream videos A LOT... which is something the Wii doesn't do, and playing against friends? Well only the 360 does that really well (although I think Sony will fix their online soon enough who knows).

As a gamer it's not my job to pick a company, but pick the most "fun" system. I see no reason to be "loyal" to Microsoft or Sony if their system sucks. If their system is giving me tons of fun for the money I paid then I'm happy. I don't understand the close-minded individuals that are brand-loyal even if they don't deserve it... and I'm sorry but right now the PS3 doesn't deserve purchases. It just does not. The graphics on the 360 are almost the same and in some cases BETTER than the PS3 (I couldn't believe it myself) because developers are having a hard time with the unit.

Sony has all but lost Ubisoft, and Namco.. for crying out loud they've lost the Ace Combat 6 series and Devil May Cry 4 to the 360. That speaks volumes, why would I pay $600 to play a game that I could pay $400 AND get to play with my friends online??!

The only advantage the PS3 has is its Blu-ray drive, which MS has options for, HD-DVD add on or download HD movies from their marketplace which is just as nice. But we're talking about FUN here.. no one here wanted to buy an expensive DVD player we wanted a good game console, and right now the Wii/360 combo in your home is the best bet for a wide range of gaming and media experiences.. not the PS3. It's as SIMPLE as that, there's not 2-ways about it.

High End PC, and 360 work well too, or PC/Wii/360.. all those IMO are justified purchases (especially if the PC/360 gaming interoperability keeps expanding).

Just buy yourself a pc and you can have any game u want. a pc is upgradable and you can plug ina controller if u need it. blue ray players are like 400 bucks for pcs.

I'm sick of $ony and their DRM mongering BS.

I'm thinking of making a new desk calendar called "Stupid Sony Quotes of the Day". Are we past 365 yet?

back of the section? 10 games a year? wow u really are a retard. im guessing u take bomerman for the 360 as a huge game release. u compare the same console big release to a pc one, pc one is better oblivion is a perfect example. CJ u need to pull your head out of ur ass

What it comes down to is that it does not matter what the market of products is, be it game systems or cars. People have the need to argue and defend what they feel is better. Similar to sports teams look at all the global violence sports causes especially soccer in the third world nations.

Remember the shooting and other side shows at the launch of the PS3 and XBox 360? I camped out at Best Buy 3 days in the freezing cold and you should of seen all the news channels coming out and people wanting to pay people for theres. Although I sold it after playing it I think the PS3 is a solid platform with tons of potential. I also like the 360 and every other system there game systems not countries fighting!

I own a PS3...*sigh*...I love tiger woods and own Oblivion and Resistance. I love all 3 titles but now only pick up the controller once every week. I havnt figured out if its the replay value yet with these titles or if its the love for a mouse and keyboard. 600 dollars short now of having the $2,500 i have been trying to save up to build a great gamin pc, I find myself wondering why when I already have a "Next-Gen" console. I dont know what Sony has to do for me but I'm tired of seeing my $600 system collecting dust. Not that its not going to anyway once I build my PC I just miss the days I guess when I would play "Mike Tyson's Punch Out" for hours not having a care in the world about the graphics. Where has the titles like that gone to? We *meaning all of us gamers* need the entire gaming industry bigwigs to realize gameplay will, at least in my opinion, always be more important then graphics. I PAY for graphics but I PLAY for the fun. IFS ITS NOT FUN I'M NOT GOING TO PAY!

At all of you. Why don't you all cry some more? Some of you people are insane with all the conspiracy talk, and Sony forcing blu ray on you. This time next year when the PS3 has some of the best games on the market, what you all going to cry about then? It seems pretty silly trash a system, any system, that has barely been out 6 months, because it does not have a super fleet of games. OMG, what a bunch of impatient, little cry babies.

I'm not firing on any console or company. But PS3 has the potential to become another RAMBUS (remember the RAM came out along with P4). The standard of PS3 is way higher than what it needs for today's games the price is supreme. With the glow of today's technology, if Wii or Xbox360 comes out a higher standard console with lower price in the future. It will easily kill off PS3.

The Xbox 360 has:

1. Xbox Live - Even if the PS3 had better looking games, I would still play my 360 simply because Sony's internet capability sucks. Live gives me full access to friends, what games they're on, even what level their playing, private chats, and a shit ton of downloadable content.

2. Options - Xbox 360 gives people options, whereas Sony forces people to buy the full enchilada. If you dont have a full HD entertainment station, thats cool, and if you do, you can go buy all the HD-DVD drives and cables seperatly. But sony forces people to buy their system with all the HD goodies that most people dont need because they dont have HD. Also, if Blu-ray doesnt win the HD war, then Sony is really screwed. If Blu-Ray does win, then Microsft can simply make a Blu-Ray drive for the 360 you can buy seperatly like the HD-Disc one.

3. Easier to program for - Developers in the long run spend more time and money actually developing the game rather than trying to figure out how to work the system, like the PS3.

In the end, the Xbox 360 is more friendly towards its buyers and its developers, thus the 360 has acquired the better games, which is what people should really focus on when buy a next gen console: which has the games you really want to play? The answer, the Xbox 360.

All, I own both a PS3 and a new Xbox 360 Elite (Yes I saved for a looonnng time). I'm Micro$oft on everything but Pound for Pound the PS3 kicks the Elite's arse!

I'm not a Sony fanboy - the PS3 is a solid state of the art system. Below is how they compare in my experience:

1. The PS3 is WAY quieter almost silent - The 360 sounds like a small prop plane

2. The controllers on the PS3 are feather light compared to the bricks on the 360

3. The controllers on the PS3 use rechargable batteries that LAST

4. Xbox live kicks Sony's online solution's arse!

5. There are tons more games for the 360 than for the PS3!

6. I can watch Blu-Ray movies on my PS3!!!

They are both good systems but just handling them both you can easily see the PS3 is made better as opposed to the Elite that is covered with cheap plastic

i want to buy a ps3. is sony thinking about continuing supporting the ps3 or what? is there "something" coming?

This is Sony all over..no legacy compatibility in Europe, in order to increase the catalogue of available games. That's despicable. Why do it? It's done for the same reasons there are no games: greed. Sell, sell, sell..even if it means there's nothing to run it.

Sony, belt up and stop treating your customer base like a George Orwell novel.

This is Sony all over..no legacy compatibility in Europe, in order to increase the catalogue of available games. That's despicable. Why do it? It's done for the same reasons there are no games: greed. Sell, sell, sell..even if it means there's nothing to run it.

Sony, belt up and stop treating your customer base like a George Orwell novel. Oh, and so much for globalisation - I see you appear to have over-inflated the price in Europe as well..

Some persons hate so much for no real reason.
Get a life.
Forgive them sony,they dont know what they are doing.

point one: companies care about you.

The companies(Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo) do care about you and want you to like their console and games. They want to make money and the way to make money is to make your customer happy so they might continue to support you and buy future products that(you hope) they will like. I know this first point seems far fetched and what do I know about this stuff anyway? (of course they want you to buy games they don't care about the consoles as much because they make little to negetive profit off of them)

point 2: -"PC is better" --"no it isn't" -"yes it is"

It is an argument that can't be won other people have preferences different than your's. People look for different things when playing a game. There are some games for PC only that I like for and there are some a certain console that I like. Some people will find that more of the games they like are on consoles only and some will find that most of their favorite games are on the PC. It depends on what you expect form a game that counts. Crazy idea huh?

I hope to see all of the game making companies stay around for a while. I may be a former gamer but I still want the video game industry to thrive for my reasons. Why I went to this article? I don't know.

Call me crazy but this is my opinion. (Yes, this comment contains sarcasm)

I got an XBOX 360 and I'm a happy camper with more money than a PS3 owner... 80)

Its simple: If PS3 doesn't have any good games or is expensive, don't buy it. Sony will either flop and somoene else will come along, or they'll be forced to make adjustments. If a company sucks, QUIT BUYING THEIR PRODUCT. No one is forcing you

Im pro blu-ray and pro PS3 for a number of reasons that I've mentioned in the past.

But I hate the way Stringer but the numbers of games together, it is very mis leading.

I have no doubt that pushing blu-ray movies and winning the format war is the biggest reason that sony put a blu-ray drive in PS3.

That said I think a secondary reason was that it would be cool to have games released on blu ray discs.

Lets face it, the better the audio and graffics the bigger the file size. One pattern if you look at the first every games to now, is that the file size of games keeps getting bigger and bigger.

So as games get bigger and bigger, poor 360 owners will have to keep switching discs over as games get too big to fit on a DVD.

The time for this may not be now, but think about 2 years from now, let alone the 6 years these consoles are meant to last for.

What mike said was very correct. Noone is forcing anything on anyone, it is YOU who's making the choice. Personally I think that people are just impatient, you have to have it NOW. What's wrong with waiting a little while and see how it turns out, the price goes down a little, more games become available.

Also on a very personal note, I'd get the PS3 because of Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid series. To me the rest of the games are just side dishes, if they're good then I'm very happy, if they're not then hey... it happens. Again, personal preference. I'd buy the PS3 because I CAN afford it and have the extra cash to burn.

But the majority of games that I like are either on the PC or played best on PCs. Like strategy games (C&C3, Total War, Starcraft, Warcraft, etc.) and FPS (Quake, Unreal, CS, Battlefield) where keyboards and mouse dominates.

In short, I second what mike said, "Noone is forcing you" so stop trying to impose your ideals on others. Want to buy a Cus shirt?

Just randomly making a number don't mean shit.
Games aren't made over night.
Unless that is you plan on pushing developers into making shitty games. GFG SONY