its amazing how many people in a free society sue the pants off eachother when they dont get their own way

I dare Comcast or Time Warner to put a cable box setup next to a Satellite setup, and tell me the Satellite doesn't have better sound and picture quailty. As far as I'm concerned DirectTV should go after the cable companies for all of their false claims. The Cable companies are overpriced and full of lies.

Personally, cable providers need to get more HD into consumers' homes. I myself own a HD projector and I only have 10 channels (5 of which showcase re-run movies, nature films and history documentaries) and they are nothing too special. All the other 1000 channels are in standard def and man do they suck. If TimeWarner's rates ever increase and DirectTV's rates are in-line along with their claim to be true, I may very well switch. Also, after paying more for an HD box, I now have to pay $6 for on-Demand HD Movies which is ludacris in my opinion. I like to watch movies, but why not just go Rent a DVD (that I can upconvert to HD) for 3-5 days for 99 cents at the grocery store. Anyways that's my 2 cents.

hey I have an idea. instead of suing everyone, put the money towards more hd channels.

yeah, Im sorry guys but cable jsut sucks. Flat out. We have had satelitte since the Primestar days, before there was a Directv, and satelittel back then was better than cable now, adn that says something. Cable is extremyl EXTREMELY overpriced. MY grandma who lives in New Jersey, pays almost $99 a month for the household to have cable. BASIC cable, as in no box, receaver or nothing. Since we have been a loyal customer since Primestar, we have a 8 HD receavers in our house and have all the channels all options for 69.99 a month. Thank goodness we have always been with them, you simply cannot get that deal today. but anyways, for 39.99 a month you can get 4 boxes with all the regular satelitte channels with HBO if you talk to the satelitte company and work with them. From my perspective, DishNetwork is the way to go nowadays. It has mroe features and it just a bit more crisp on no hd channels. Plus they have service for about every country. DishNetwork CA, DishNetwork Mexico, Euro DishNetwork, and Su Asia Network. They will eventually squash Directv, but intill then we will enjoy our cheap prices.

I have watched DirecTV, Dish and Charter cable. Charter beats both DirecTV and Dish on Standard Def channels. On satellite the dynamic range is terrible. Satellite uses way too much compression. And Dish is the worst.

However, I dislike the cable industry almost as much I hate oil companies and politicians. They act like they're doing you a favor by taking your money every month. And they take a lot of it.

Furthermore, they are trying to prevent Verizon from going into their territory with FIOS. And they pushed the issue with satellite co's and local channels.


They have nerve suing DirecTV when they have monopolized the television industry for the last 30 years.

I hope the HD satellite thing works out well for the satellite providers so we will have real competition.

Same with Verizon and FIOS. Though I heard they are having issues with the union and cost of provision. The installation takes half a day or longer in some cases.

I love it when Roadrunner advertises screaming speeds that let you download music,movies,and anything else they takes a lot longer with dial-up."1 million times faster than dial-up", etc. The part they leave out is how long it takes to send a couple of decent sized files to gramma. When I had RR, the outbound pipe averaged 128K on it's best day. Comcast was even worse. 10 averages got me 86K. Now they are "offering" to up the inbound speed to 8M, then 10M, the skies the limit.I understand they want to stop file sharing, but when I mention how their pipe affects my kids ping in Counter Strike, they say it doesn't make a difference on the outbound pipe, which is a flat face lie. Their view is we don't need outbound speed, and must be doing something shady if wee want a larger outbound. We switched to Everest KC and his ping went to less than half of what he had with RR. We are on the 5M/384K plan, but we usually sit around 500K out. He sits in the high teens to low 20's now, so we're both happy.

A fine example on how RR treats it's customers is summed up in one experience. RR was charging us 99 bucks, and some neighborhoods 129 for the same plan, which included cable internet and basic plus. When RR learned that Everest was coming to the neighborhood in a couple of months, they came to my front door and offered to drop my bill to 59 dollars for a year, then it would go to 69.

Hey RR, bring the KY next time.

Owen,

CS was designed to run at dialup speeds. The outbound traffic NEVER exceeds 4.3K. So, the fact that you had at worst 128K (which likely meant you had the cheap package not the standard 6Mb/512K) wasn't your problem.

Simply, your son was playing on servers where he got slow routes. My guess is this was not as common as he told you, but that he pulled the wool over your eyes instead of telling the real reason he wanted faster upstream. It is a known fact that the majority of Internet users do not need a large upstream. The fact you changed over to another provider likely changed the route to those same servers, which then gave him better pings.

Or, he went out on the net about the same time and read the CS Netcode guide I wrote, oh, many, many years ago which details how to tweak your system to individual servers. I was a beta tester for HL/CS, so I actually know what I'm talking about.

Read up on why things occur before blasting something. Sat internet CAN'T compare to cable. DSL is one step below. Cable and DSL are BOTH SHARED, it's just that DSL's sharing is one step away from the house vs. cable.

the cable/satellite companies are actually outputting FAR less money than they did in the past to provide you with broadcast television. the technology is cheaper, the manpower to maintain it is less, the bandwidth is cheaper, etc. Do you see your prices going down? I don't. My local cable company (the only one) keeps reporting record profits in the millions every quarter.

I really hope services like Joost offering television broadcast over the internet are a success. then we'd actually have some competition, and maybe even be paying reasonable prices for television WITH ADVERTISING IN IT. why do I have to pay so much to watch advertising?

GoogAdmin, Time Warner runs much of the cable operations in jersey and at 99 dollars you would have Cable, Internet, and Telephone. Primestar is no longer in operation and is now owned by Direct TV, who's basic cost for HD programming is 60.00 on special. They won't let you have more then 6 tv's. You have to have an antenna to pick up local hd channels, and they charge a monthly service charge for extra recievers.

yeah, your credible...

LB, you are no where near as bad as google admin, but you may lack a little knowledge. The cable industry is not trying to stop verizon from expanding their Fios Network. It's the manner in which they are doing it that the industry is attacking. Verizon is launching it's network in rich/posh neighborhoods only. The are not launching everywhere, like the cable industry has to.

When cable companies launched phone service, they needed to launch for all of their subscribers, not just the wealthy ones, or the select markets in a region.

They are literally picking neighborhoods to wire at a street level, and that is what the cable industry is fighting, simply because they can not do that.

Now, time warner is suing them because of false advertising, not because they are competition. Most major cable networks already have a lot of fiber, and are flexable. The add in question states quite simply that in the future they will have three times the hd capacity then cabel, wich may be true, but extremely unlikely, seeing as once cable companies go completely digital it will free up stupid amounts of bandwidth. Quite simply, the add can be taken to state that they will be 3 times better then cable ever will be and time warner took offense.

Once cable compnies dump analog, they'll be good to go. even better as "hybrid-fiber coax" networks improve. i work for cable and i know it's portentials and strengths